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Unread Messageby Moindreffor » 22/09/18, 09:12

for tarragon as you can easily divide the foot, month I will divide and I will try several exhibitions, several corners and you observe, where it grows well you leave it, where it does not grow you turn
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Unread Messageby nico239 » 22/09/18, 14:54

Actually it's a good idea ... : Idea: :!:

Previously we did not have many shady corners ...

But now with the landscaped mounds we have created new 2 ... I think I'm going to divide there.

Obviously it's inevitably ... near the trees ... see another exchange in another subject.
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Unread Messageby phil53 » 11/01/19, 17:55

Today near Nantes, I made an attempt to harvest earthworms to put them in my garden.
On a diameter of 30cm, I poured in 2 5 liters of water with 200g of mustard diluted in, this to 10mn interval.
I recovered 29 normal-sized earthworms and 11 small worms that seem to me from a different species. They are thinner and more pink. But not red like compost worms.
You have to be patient, it took me 40mn.
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Unread Messageby phil53 » 11/01/19, 18:33

The little rose on the left, the earthworms on the right
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My crop released on hay, I scattered them a little after
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After 20mn I went back to the collection place, there was 2 again.
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Unread Messageby Did67 » 11/01/19, 18:58

This could be Lumbricus rubellus, which most sites say is epiged, but one or the other ranks it among the anecdotes (confusion because Lumbricus ???). It would be rather a specialist of dead leaves ... Does this correspond to the biotope where you took it: roadside? orchard?

With all reservations.
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Unread Messageby phil53 » 11/01/19, 19:30

The sampling was made not far (1m5) of bamboo tufts where there are actually a few leaves.
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Unread Messageby Did67 » 11/01/19, 23:44

I forgot to say it, but we now have a validated answer to those who ask the question to introduce anecic worms ... It was a beautiful harvest! A beautiful breeding stock !!!

In some situations, there remains the question of their survival / multiplication. Random research, I plunged into the book of Marcel Bouché and I came across a passage where he speaks of soils that dry up in the summer and where such species of worms do not survive ... I would have had to take note!

In any case, the question of the effects of drought, in species not in diapause or quiescence, is raised. Normally, the anecdotes are in diapause, but in the serious situations, they retire long?
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Unread Messageby Moindreffor » 13/01/19, 12:32

Did67 wrote:I forgot to say it, but we now have a validated answer to those who ask the question to introduce anecic worms ... It was a beautiful harvest! A beautiful breeding stock !!!

In some situations, there remains the question of their survival / multiplication. Random research, I plunged into the book of Marcel Bouché and I came across a passage where he speaks of soils that dry up in the summer and where such species of worms do not survive ... I would have had to take note!

In any case, the question of the effects of drought, in species not in diapause or quiescence, is raised. Normally, the anecdotes are in diapause, but in the serious situations, they retire long?

I think doing the same thing, useful or not, it does not cost anything to try, at least it can also help others, but I think we should not go too far, our worms, me on everything the subdivision of the town hall to keep two fields to make a green space, I will go harvest on this lawn, when it will be warmer, either 100-150 m from home, I will have to be on the same type of livestock
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Unread Messageby phil53 » 13/01/19, 13:17

I took them close to the garden.
I have read that they should not be dispersed when they are released.
This increases the possibility that they will reproduce a lot.
Better to make points to let go. Stupidly I scattered them a little remembering that Didier wrote that they moved little horizontally.
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Unread Messageby Did67 » 13/01/19, 14:28

I think we have to agree on the terms:

- considering the quantity that you had, it would have been exaggerated to put them say on 1 m²; in a video of Mr. Bouché, we see a sheet of 1 m² with the "collection" scattered on: firstly, there is no 200 or 300 to, on the other hand and most importantly, there is only a handful of "fat"

- but indeed, I think the ideal is to make small groups, so that they meet when they go back in the spring and mate ... I will put 3 or 4 l 50 space cm to the round, then another group further, etc ...

- The Swiss Fibl are more optimistic than the sources I had: they speak about ten m per year, which overlaps a little with the Canadian document about which we had exchanged ...

So I think we can be a little more relaxed. Yes, I too learn every day! But note that mating in a xm radius is not synonymous with "migrating" xm per year. Finally the opposite! The mating can be done in a very close radius and the descendants, once strong, migrate to conquer their niche to them. It's even quite common. There are Alsatians in Namibia. This does not mean that Alsatians are looking for wives within a radius of 10 000 km !!!
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