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Re: Lazy Gardener in Loire Atlantique

Unread Messageby to be chafoin » 26/06/18, 11:12

Did67 wrote:As already written somewhere, there is field bindweed and bindweed. The latter has rhizomes the size of an inch to about fifty cm deep (when it is well installed). It is not tomorrow the day before that it will be "emptied"!
I wonder what to do with this bindweed hedges that limits my parcel of beet, beets ... for now I let it grow as seen in the photo by planing it slack but I wonder if with these rhizomes you speak it is not likely to exhaust the resources of my soil ...
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Unread Messageby Did67 » 26/06/18, 12:22

I block it along the hedge. Ripping / brushing a "path" between my plots and the hedge.

Of course it immobilizes some minerals. But I think it's about the "not much", the order of the imperceptible. Never forget that the reserves, it is above all carbohydrates, so very very first of all at the origin, of the CO2 caught in the air and H2O caught in the ground ...

On my videos, you can see very good cabbages nearby, in 2016. This year, no visible difference between potatoes along the hedge and those far away ...
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Re: Lazy Gardener in Loire Atlantique

Unread Messageby nico239 » 26/06/18, 12:27

phil53 wrote:The first picture is the 4 bubilles that I planted. I had cut one and it seemed to be one piece.
The bottom photo is the result of one of the 4.
I did not harvest, except what I eat. I see last year that it will be small and tedious to peel.


Ah ok so in the photo 1 you planted the cayeux-bulbils from the heads that comes out above?

That's it?

On the other hand in the photo 2 we can not see anything is blurry suddenly I do not understand well

They are not consumables?
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Re: Lazy Gardener in Loire Atlantique

Unread Messageby Did67 » 26/06/18, 14:17

Me too, I'm a little lost!

a) The 4 "bulbilles" of the photo 1, you planted them. This is an archive photo?

Are they from the culture of "bulbils" that are formed when garlic "rises"? It forms then kinds of tiny clays, on a head that looks like a "flower". When they are planted, this kind of caïeux gives this kind of "unles segmented", all round [I had so, much smaller than yours].

b) The 2 photo is the foot obtained there, planting one of these round bulbs in the spring. That's it ? He is rotten. According to what you describe, a soft rot (you speak of "pus"). These soft rots are the work of bacteria. Probably related to the excess humidity that we have experienced ...
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Unread Messageby phil53 » 26/06/18, 14:38

Yes, that's it, I planted 4 bubilles (photo1) and one of them fell by the wind, rotten at the base and fragmented the rest.
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Unread Messageby Did67 » 26/06/18, 16:30

Apart from rot, of course, everything is normal.

Garlic sometimes makes this type of "run", with production of this kind of bulbils, which, when planted, gives a single "bulb" (I do not know how to say).

And when it is planted, it becomes a garlic forming a head of caïeux ...

[I regularly tease brushes between "clove", "clays", "bulbs", "bulbs" ... Wikipedia says: "For garlic, each calf put in the ground gives a new bulb formed from 3 to 20 Caïeux". The terms "head" and "pods" are rather culinary terms: "Garlic clove: Part of a garlic head, which is composed of several pods, protected by an inedible film". A bulb would be a head. And a caïeu, a pod ...]
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Re: Lazy Gardener in Loire Atlantique

Unread Messageby nico239 » 28/06/18, 00:05

The pod or bulb is all cayeux or bulblets.

It seems (for garlic) that the best cayeux are those from the outside (without any certainty)
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Re: Lazy Gardener in Loire Atlantique

Unread Messageby phil53 » 02/07/18, 23:16

3 years ago, I cut a peach tree and I left the strain covered with soil and BRF. I thought he was going to disintegrate quickly and not at all. Because of work, I have to move the earth and the trunk remained intact and did not start to rot at all.
On the other hand, despite intense heat for several days without rain for almost 1 months, the earth was still wet under the false BRF. The upper part of the stump flush with the surface of the BRF, the organisms should have attacked it.
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Unread Messageby phil53 » 06/07/18, 22:44

Colorado potato beetles attack my eggplant's foot. I thought they were exclusively on p's.
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Re: Lazy Gardener in Loire Atlantique

Unread Messageby Did67 » 10/07/18, 11:04

No no. It's a classic. When the yolks turn yellow, become less appetizing, the eggplants are green and the CPB will go to the eggplants or tomatoes (which are also solanum, as the pdt).
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