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[GuyGadebois]

Izy, Tryphon, responsible ecology, you are targeted.

Alerts and e-reputation: revelations about the GMO lobby's defamation strategy

18 May 2015 | By Benjamin Sourice

The raven under all its profiles

We publish here an unpublished survey on the blog Imposteurs.org and its anonymous authors, Anton Suwalki and Wackes Seppi, who since 2007 methodically denigrate journalists, whistleblowers, and other "ayatollah of ecologism", to the point of undermining to the e-reputation of its targets on the web.
In the window, the site Imposteurs.org and its two pseudo authors, Anton Suwalki and Wackes Seppi, like to see themselves as the guardians of "Science, against all quackery and all impostures". Yet, under the pen of its anonymous editors, the web page has become a reference in terms of rants against "anti-GMOs" and "the organic lobby", whose spokespersons are systematically associated with "the worst of the obscurantists", all these "ayatollah of ecologism" and other "crazy bio". Terms that recall the recent attacks of Xavier Beulin, boss of the agricultural syndicate FNSEA, against the "green jihadists".

The following here:
http://parolescitoyennes-loupian-bouzig ... teurs.html

[GuyGadebois]

Conviction for defamation and insults of the pro-GMO blog "Imposteurs".

Paris, 1er July 2019 - The 27 June 2019, 17ème correctional room sentenced Stéphane Adrover and André Heitz for defamation and insults against Paul Moreira, author of a critical investigation on GMOs and pesticides: "Soon in our plates ..." , broadcast by Canal +.

As part of a blog called "Impostors", whose director is Stéphane Adrover, André Heitz had written an article entitled: "Patrick Moore says Paul Moreira that he is a c ... finished". The article was signed by the pseudonym Wackes Seppi. He went on to prove that the documentary was a "docu-liar", "shabby", "no one", "infantile" and that Paul Moreira knowingly gave false information to manipulate the public.

The article was published on November 9 2014. André Heitz was sentenced as well as the director of publication Stéphane Adrover. The blog "Impostors" has made a specialty of attacking all journalists who come to investigate pesticides or genetically modified organisms. The authors presented themselves as scientists. During the trial, it was learned that André Heitz had spent most of his professional life dealing with seed-related patent issues.

[GuyGadebois]

Nobody cares?
It is nevertheless interesting to know the methods of disinformation, indoctrination used by lobbyists and taken over by voluntary and / or involuntary affidies .. No?

[Moindreffor]

Nobody cares?
It is nevertheless interesting to know the methods of disinformation, indoctrination used by lobbyists and taken over by voluntary and / or involuntary affidies .. No?

the misinformation is in all the camps, what is alarming is that a fake news well done will persist even by bringing the proof of the swindle
denouncing the periods when denunciations without evidence led to the worst horrors, and now we do the same by giving ourselves a good conscience because we act for the good of all, or for the planet ... except that whistleblowers of formerly they too thought to act for the good of all ...
so aren't we reproducing the same mistakes of the past? the question may arise, right?

[GuyGadebois]

Disinformation, when it relays the lies of the industry with its exorbitant powers is not comparable with anything else easily dismantled, if only by the fantasy or the imbecility of certain organic "sects", vegan, antivax or others. It is a question of means.
On the one hand we have billionaires who defend their fat, on the other, researchers (destitute in comparison) who often produce enormous work in addition to their own to denounce the negligence and lies of industrialists. The balance of power is different, and all the more so as certain corrupt minds are with delight "on the good side" of the handle to better relay the disinformation of the "listed on the stock exchange".
That said, I agree with you, misinformation is potentially everywhere.

[Moindreffor]

Disinformation, when it relays the lies of the industry with its exorbitant powers is not comparable with anything else easily dismantled, if only by the fantasy or the imbecility of certain organic "sects", vegan, antivax or others. It is a question of means.
On the one hand we have billionaires who defend their fat, on the other, researchers (destitute in comparison) who often produce enormous work in addition to their own to denounce the negligence and lies of industrialists. The balance of power is different, and all the more so as certain corrupt minds are with delight "on the good side" of the handle to better relay the disinformation of the "listed on the stock exchange".
That said, I agree with you, misinformation is potentially everywhere.

On the one hand you have the financial weight and on the other the weight of opinion, why some mayors approaching the elections find themselves a green fiber, simply because of the strength of opinion
therefore denouncing the financial strength of the lobby is commendable and must be done, if indeed scam there is behind, but then we must denounce with the same fervor the manipulation of opinion based on demagoguery

[Ahmed]

Moindreffor, you write:

... but it is necessary to denounce with the same fervor the manipulation of opinion based on the demagogy.

Elected officials are supposed, at least formally, to represent their constituents, so there is nothing shocking that on certain occasions (elections!) They take account of it ...

[GuyGadebois]

Disinformation, when it relays the lies of the industry with its exorbitant powers is not comparable with anything else easily dismantled, if only by the fantasy or the imbecility of certain organic "sects", vegan, antivax or others. It is a question of means.
On the one hand we have billionaires who defend their fat, on the other, researchers (destitute in comparison) who often produce enormous work in addition to their own to denounce the negligence and lies of industrialists. The balance of power is different, and all the more so as certain corrupt minds are with delight "on the good side" of the handle to better relay the disinformation of the "listed on the stock exchange".
That said, I agree with you, misinformation is potentially everywhere.

On the one hand you have the financial weight and on the other the weight of opinion, why some mayors approaching the elections find themselves a green fiber, simply because of the strength of opinion
therefore denouncing the financial strength of the lobby is commendable and must be done, if indeed scam there is behind, but then we must denounce with the same fervor the manipulation of opinion based on demagoguery

Certainly, but by no means (I swear) did I think of politicians. Thank you for the booster.

[izentrop]

... we denounced the periods when denunciations without proof led to the worst horrors, and now we do the same again by giving ourselves a good conscience because we act for the good of all, or for the planet ...

The worst is when it is for the benefit of a majority towards a minority.

Agriculture has become a profession of technicians has become a minority. More or less dishonest media make their fortune by disguising agriculture by surfing on the emotional, knowing that the average person is not going to check the information.

I looked at the survey in question, it is on ioutub. Of course there is some truth, roundup ready GMOs were a mistake, but all is not to be thrown into the dust.
It is shot in the same way that MM Robin did in his day: we make a lot of amalgam, not said but very suggested, with a little music well anxiety. All the ingredients to caress the emotional fiber of the listener in the direction you want to take him.

The links that you quote, Guy are the showcase of consumer associations disconnected from the realities that have any interest to incense this kind of media. In these consumers, there are probably neorurals who live in subdivisions, whose lands are originally agricultural lands and are on the edge of cultivated fields. There are also some rare cases of farmers who do not respect the spreading rules. There are agreements to be reached with local residents, but it is not disinformation and all-out trials that will resolve the differences.

The few whistleblowers are very brave and try to bring some truth into this modern bashing agri

[Janic]

Disinformation, when it relays the lies of the industry with its exorbitant powers is not comparable with anything else easily dismantled, if only by the fantasy or the imbecility of certain organic "sects", vegan, antivax or others. It is a question of means.

two-speed disinformation? On one side the nice green anti organic, pro bidoche, provaxx and others and on the other the bad organic, vegans, antivaxx and others that do not take over the same lies of the industry with its exorbitant powers? Everyone therefore sees noon at his door, of course!

The worst is when it is for the benefit of a majority towards a minority.
Agriculture has become a profession of technicians has become a minority

it's called a turnaround with farmers prochimie dominating the market yesterday and questioned by more and more consumers and paradigm shift among farmers who can no longer survive in the old system and commit suicide