I will only take this example which is striking in your ignorance:
Moindreffor wrote:for example the excess of salt, since this one is recommended as "organic" weedkiller and a genetic modification it is not quite the same thing
You are mixing apples and oranges! Here we are not talking about ORGANIC (a label that means nothing in absolute terms) in principle better than what agro-business offers us. Here we are talking about this absolute rubbish “
of GMOs carcinogenic claimed to be good for health” which is only a slogan, an unrealistic pretension of (pseudo) mad scientists who would claim to do "better" than nature in the medium term, she who has billions of years in advance and experiences (er this pushed by juicy peofits which consist in ruining the peasants in order to buy back their land or indebt them to the point of suicide with a "one way ticket" without return...
Moindreffor wrote: when wheat has "naturally" grown to more than 2n chromosomes, no one sees it as a GMO, although in the literal sense it is one, it has been naturally genetically modified,
Has been, and the other for daring to talk to us about wheat... (a food with a rather acidic and inflammatory tendency by nature) Alpet also essentially loves toxic, partly responsible for diabetes and whose consumption it would be better to reduce to strictly necessary (while people make orgies of it: pasta, pizzas, biacuits, baguettes, pastries, and other wholemeal breads or not (the nice joke) which are nothing for the human body other than the ingestion of glue ( s) if we take the reasoning to the extreme! We human beings do NOT need this gigantic supplementation of carbohydrates which are NOT slow sugars. There are plenty of carbohydrates in fruits and vegetables... And if there is a need for calories, we will prefer other cereals such as millet, buckwheat or rice, or even better but not all the time: potatoes.
I remind you here that the last time you leaked my questions about the right dosage in the food bowl, so I won't repeat the experience a second time...Moindreffor wrote:your software, blocks on the "synthetic" the fact by the Man,
the guy wants to induce computer notions in the mind to suggest that we would be permeable to let ourselves be intoxicated by his narrative which would like to present the living as coming under programmed obsolescence... Well with the covid we have seen that it is It was man and the fragility of his co-morbidities, which became obsolete in the face of pathetic variants that brought the services of hospitals on the planet to Earth. Suddenly your promise of domination of technology over the "natural", has a lot of lead in the wing...
In your next “essay” I have completely turned your narrative upside down, starting from the opposite idea of the thread — from the verified thesis of the harmfulness of GMOs — by replacing GMO with TOXIC (and having rectified your counter -final meaning) and maybe you will understand why it is
“a side of the plate”Moindreffor wrote: natural TOXIC is good..., synthetic TOXIC is bad, and where the absurdity goes even further is that human TOXIC gene therapy is bad, but plant TOXIC gene therapy is good.
We immediately understand the imposture which consists in minimizing human poisons by saying:
”Look, there are also poisons in nature...... But sorry, nature has not yet made Chernobyl, nor Fukushima, Bhopal Minamata, Seveso, or even recently Beirut where half a city is devastated by an explosion...
Everyone knows that human pollution is much more concentrated than what nature produces. Everyone knows that chemical molecules are very pure, whereas their natural equivalences are drowned in subtle complexes that no longer have anything to do with each other, we had already spoken of the simple example of vitamin "C" whose formula had to be retorted several times, to try to get closer to the natural “C” vit. And you were royally planted (that's why I'm going to stop there, this debate is lost in the face of insurmountable people who camp on their positions by trying the smokescreen to stay in their "comfort zone", whose goal is to avoid going too deep... The simple fact that GMOs cause mutations in fields adjacent to polluting crops, should already inspire caution and make people understand the danger. who support this industry are ready to compromise for the sole purpose of saving their jobs!
I will add that the essential mission of the chemical industry is to manufacture stable products which can be kept for as long as possible and produced at low cost... Quite the opposite of nature which seeks to perform in the explosion of life AT ALL PRICE, which by definition is bathed in a universe with a lot of oxygen and therefore constantly in instability with an unavoidable expiration agenda being specified by the minute (see the freezing chains which seek to target the right moment to start the harvest at the peak of growth and maturity...)
Moindreffor wrote: either it is a fear of progress, which can be understood because the path to progress is not only paved with successes, but one learns from one's mistakes, or it is a rejection of the business done around it and therefore a rejection of the capitalism, which can also be understood, but therefore no direct link
Oh that's well done... Nein I don't need to put profit at the heart of the thing since you just said it (that's done, and in addition the guy serves it to you on a platter)
For me, current progress is minimalism, permaculture, the humility of having understood that there was no other salvation in the state than through the idea of starting by understanding how nature had (for example) succeeded for having been able to grow the Amazonian forest... without man... and without any synthetic product...
We may talk about biochemistry, puffing out our chests to say that man is capable of equaling nature — starting from the simplistic principle that synthetic molecules are allegedly strictly identical to natural ones — but to date, the man has never succeeded in creating the slightest living cell from what we know of the “initial bricks of life”. Never.
I stop there definitively, so the pretensions and inconsistencies are dizzying!
Thanks and again