Enzymes, Crudités and Pancreas or Pancreas

[Obamot]

Yesterday I was smacked, hence the ultra short answer. ;) Janic is right.

After a good night's sleep, it turns out that this point:

spoken in an understandable way, if all the readers (if there are any;)) must read 10 years of messages to understand all the subtlety of which you are a user know [...] (see nothing wrong with it nor reproach quite the contrary it is all to your honor to remember), well I think that nobody will understand anything ...
It's like when you make a presentation, whatever level it is, you have to put it in the frame, in the context and explain ...
These explanations which for you will only be harsh, will be for those who have not read "the tarpaulin" before "the harp" (;)), will not understand taste ....

Was particularly well expressed, and is a very useful observation! On the other hand, there was no wasted time, because as already said, participating in a forum is also a form of introspection.

PS: Apart from that, it seems that you seem to continue (when the complexity increases?), To mix the words of certain interlocutors with the concepts expressed / used by others!

You wouldn't do us a bit of a sort "reversal of something"when you write (not always eh, but you were still doing it above: so sorry, nothing personal or offensive, just a question in passing, which does not necessarily require an answer)?

[bidouille23]

Hello ,

OBamot my dear Are you talking to me in small lettering?

you can write it roughly for me you know I don't take offense until I consciously know that I'm wrong but that I don't want to admit it;) ...

But seeing that I do not understand the background of PS, I do not take it for myself, this says it gives me something to think about anyway ...

Are we not the fruit of the exchanges we have here And every day in our physical life? ... Evolution therefore goes through the understanding of ideas expressed by others, on its own account in order to become one with it, and therefore apply them every day ...

but there are a lot of enzymes away .... whatever;) ...

let's refocus the debate that heck .... on our navel or more precisely on what is behind ...

In all this I would still have learned things (little by little I become less small), it is that our body is a formidable extraordinary machine which can manufacture what it needs at the right time, the whole thing is not to not lose her and make her do anything.

[hic]

To my knowledge, no vegetable enzyme survives passage through gastric juice *. [/ Size]

hi Obamot
NO!
The optimum pH for action of pepsin is between 1,8 and 4,4 and it is inactivated by the alkaline bicarbonates of pancreatic juice.
The icing on the cake is that the stomach produces its own enzymes!

Pierre and Marie Curie University
*** www.chups.jussieu.fr/polys/biochimie/DG ... pdf ***

Conclusion:
Eating raw is good business and aids digestion
(and saves by adding external enzymes)



7.4 Pepsin
DG 38 XNUMX
• Pepsin is an endoprotease which hydrolyzes the peptide bonds in which a
aromatic amino acid (Tyr, Trp, Phe) engages its amine function.
• Pepsin is an enzyme in gastric juice. It is synthesized in the form of pepsinogen
(inactive proenzyme) then stored in the enzymatic vesicles of the main cells,
from where it is excreted at the time of digestion. The activation of pepsinogen to pepsin is
the result of acid hydrolysis in the acidic environment of the stomach. Pepsinogen (weight
mol. 43000) then loses several fragments including one of 29 amino acids (inhibitor of pep-
sine) whose hydrolysis causes activation of pepsin. The optimum pH of action of pep-
sine is between 1,8 and 4,4 and is inactivated by the alkaline bicarbonates of the juice
pancreatic.

[Obamot]

Mekékidi Hic?

here I asked you to specify, because obviously you did not know what you were talking about:
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post254997.html#254997

and I asked you:

no vegetable enzyme survives passage through gastric juice * [...]
* with a few rare exceptions, if you mean exocrine enzymes ?!

You still haven't answered.

here I asked you what enzymes it was:
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post254997.html#254997

I reiterate: metabolic enzymes = pepsin!

And so, that's exactly what I told you ...

So that you found, bravo! But it was already marked earlier in the thread. grrrrr

As for vegetable enzymes, they are useful but they serve another purpose: we have to look further.

PS: hold on, since you are talking about endroproteases, tell us what is their relationship with COX-1 and COX-2? ° _O (instead of copied / pasted which we must admit they do not say, exactly, what YOU want)

[hic]

""
Absence of enzymes in industrial food and the consequences

Vets and BARF Written by Viggo
Monday, May 11, 2009 07:57
Absence of enzymes in industrial food and the consequences

Nature has done it right: Any food in its natural form and not modified by cooking, is provided with its own enzymes (exogenous) allowing its digestion and assimilation. Without enzymes there is no life possible.
""
*** http://www.b-a-r-f.com/Veterinaires-et- ... zymes.html ***

[hic]

""
Use of exogenous enzymes in pig and poultry feed
The use of exogenous enzymes in animal feed

Four essential reasons justify the use of exogenous enzymes in food
animal:

1.
To inhibit the action of the anti-nutritional factors contained in food and which have
deleterious effects on the process of digestion and the health of the animal;

2.
To increase the accessibility of the nutrients contained in food by
animal endogenous enzymes;

3.
To compensate for the absence in animals of an enzyme capable of hydrolyzing bonds
specific chemicals;

4.
To compensate for the lack of enzyme in a tube
immature digestive (ie young animals).
Most often, the enzyme preparations used in animal feed
have more than one reason.
""
*** http://www.cra.wallonie.be/img/page/pub ... eckers.pdf ***

[hic]

Plant enzymes pass the stomach acid barrier
How do we know that the body does not assimilate proteins?
Because we know the difference between proteins and amino acids

Enzymes have a protein structure and behave like proteins!


FURTHERMORE!
saliva enzymes are useless
The saliva of a dog consuming raw does not contain salivary enzymes. (Quid de l'Education Nationnale)

- because it does not need it, this system being only a means of last resort.


Eating cooked causes an overgrowth of white blood cells near the intestine,
the body recognizing cooked food as an assault.
'Always' start meals with raw and unpasteurized, that's enough.

for references, visit Wikipedia

Eating raw saves the production of salivary enzymes and digestive pancreatic enzymes and increases the diversity of vegetable enzymes
(relieving the pancreas of this work, which will focus on metabolic enzymes for cell maintenance)


I recommend cooking for periods of famine when "THE OTHERS" die of "END"