Eating ORGANIC: no guarantee of food safety

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Re: Eating ORGANIC: not a guarantee of food safety




by Exnihiloest » 31/05/22, 18:36

Janic wrote:...It's not the bio in itself that is blamed there, but the chemicals that are added to it afterwards, the imbeciles of service should learn to read better.

The obscurantist on duty pulls "added chemicals" out of his hat when there are no facts to prove it. Obscurantists always have problems with facts. Unless it's pure stupid and wicked disinformation by an idol worshiper of nature.

Organic was a danger even before "chemicals". Microbes and bacteria not treated by "chemicals" have a good life, salmonellosis and typhoid have revealed it in the past. Campylobacter and other salmonella are much more comfortable in organic than in non-organic.

The only interest of organic is possibly the taste. No studies have shown a health benefit to eating organic.
The gogos have swapped any traces of pesticides for pathogenic microorganisms. Congratulations gogos, you have a taste for risk, may the force of Staphylococcus aureus be with you! : Lol:
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Re: Eating ORGANIC: not a guarantee of food safety




by Exnihiloest » 31/05/22, 18:41

Obamot wrote:...The analyzes gave NOTHING to the suckers...!

Well no, these are diseases by spontaneous generations, that will surely reassure patients: : roll:

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Obamot wrote:...
There are currently no food recall warnings associated with this outbreak.

Everyone can read. Just do not consume and throw away these organic strawberry junk. This is what is requested. Everyone understood except Obamot.
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Re: Eating ORGANIC: not a guarantee of food safety




by Janic » 01/06/22, 08:09

Janic wrote:
...It's not the bio in itself that is blamed there, but the chemicals that are added to it afterwards, the imbeciles of service should learn to read better.
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The obscurantist on duty pulls “added chemicals” out of his hat when there are no facts to prove it.
the imbecile on duty doesn't know how to read the article mentioned, goes back to school, big sucker!
Obscurantists always have problems with facts. Unless it's pure stupid and wicked disinformation by an idol worshiper of nature.
ah, finally, you implicitly recognize that the agricultural chemistry industry has been doing pure disinformation for more than a century, as for the vaccines that you idolize too!
Organic was a danger even before "chemicals".
That's pure stupidity by confusing the cycle of life with an agriculture that seeks to preserve it. Every day millions of cells are born and then die in your body and it's the natural cycle that you hate so much with your fantasies of the immortal man.
Microbes and bacteria not treated with "chemicals" have a good life, salmonellosis and typhoid have revealed it in the past. Campylobacter and other salmonella are much more comfortable in organic than in non-organic.
other pseudo-scientific bullshit! These bacteria only attack the most fragile to preserve and maintain the robustness necessary for the survival of species and your chemistry only preserves and maintains the weakest, causing a loss of vitality in the varieties that human pride believes it maintains. flow.
The only interest of organic is possibly the taste. No studies have shown a health benefit to eating organic.
the taste only intervenes to show a qualitative difference between two organic products or not. When it comes to the health benefits of organic, it's not measured in labs, but in the field with millions of consumers that no one serious will consult, especially not your agrochemical buddies.
The gogos have swapped any traces of pesticides for pathogenic microorganisms.
the imbecile of service which adds some, once more! where do you get that these microorganisms are necessarily pathogenic in healthy people,... like covid by the way!
Congratulations gogos, you have a taste for risk, may the force of Staphylococcus aureus be with you! : Lol:
like gogo you place yourself at the top of those there, of course!
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Re: Eating ORGANIC: not a guarantee of food safety




by Obamot » 01/06/22, 14:27

Exnihiloest wrote:
Obamot wrote:...The analyzes gave NOTHING ...!

diseases by spontaneous generations, [...]
microorganisms pathogens [...]
Everyone understood except Obamot.
Oulàh... he makes us a nervous case-case... : Mrgreen:

You should write "pathos embarrassment” is more suitable for your “CAS” : Twisted:
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by Moindreffor » 01/06/22, 20:22

Obamot wrote:The CFIA is investigating the food safety of fresh organic strawberries purchased between March 5 and March 9, 2022 from Co-op stores in Alberta and Saskatchewan.
There are currently no food recall warnings associated with this outbreak.


ask for the recall of foods that you normally eat the same day, or 2 or 3 days very large max after purchase, that would border on the ridiculous, right? especially that in addition how long between the appearance of symptoms, the confirmation of the diagnosis... and especially to make a link between the multiplicity of cases and the strawberries..., those who still have strawberries in their fridge, I think they would risk something else like intoxication : Mrgreen:

hence, the part on frozen strawberries, where there it is a little more sensible
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Re: Eating ORGANIC: not a guarantee of food safety




by Obamot » 02/06/22, 02:19

Moindreffor wrote:
Obamot wrote:The CFIA is investigating the food safety of fresh organic strawberries purchased between March 5 and March 9, 2022 from Co-op stores in Alberta and Saskatchewan.
There are currently no food recall warnings associated with this outbreak.


ask for the recall of foods that you normally eat the same day, or 2 or 3 days very large max after purchase, that would border on the ridiculous, right? especially that in addition how long between the appearance of symptoms, the confirmation of the diagnosis... and especially to make a link between the multiplicity of cases and the strawberries..., those who still have strawberries in their fridge, I think they would risk something else like intoxication : Mrgreen:

hence, the part on frozen strawberries, where there it is a little more sensible

This year I enjoyed 1kg strawberry platters, a very good “cuvée”... :D bought at the market I relied on the taste.
Without wanting to offend you and although I understand your point of view, the recalls of this guy in the big distribution, there are regularly!
At the market, never seen, but organic is sold confidentially, and in Canada as “organic”
(I don't think the organic label exists over there, it's more like “Organic Agriculture Certification”. Question of intellectual property, the word “BIO” cannot be protected, only the LOGO can be. So if we uses a different typography to write “BIO” than the registered label, we must have the right...)

And even if you very wisely point out that in this type of emergency, the alert cycle must be extremely short for "fresh produce", however, and it is they who say so, the fact that it there was no withdrawal from the stalls and that they announce it, seems to me all the more significant for the lack of link between “cause VS effect”, don't you think?
Simply because it didn't happen.
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Re: Eating ORGANIC: not a guarantee of food safety




by Janic » 02/06/22, 09:39

Well said Obamot!
Moreover, for mass distribution, this one does not buy 10 trays of strawberries or other fresh products, but whole trucks, this product leaving part on the shelf, the rest in the fridge. In France in any case, surveys show the lack of concern of retailers to respect products that have no information on the harvest date and the temptation is great to "preserve" these with a few non-consumable products and it has been decades that the media , supporting the chemical business have sought to butcher organic with bogus accusations about the producers and not the distribution chain.
The nullard therefore only adds his hateful voice to the producer without giving him the right to defend himself except to go to court. This does not deny that some, who call themselves organic, are only so to sell more expensive products that do not deserve this name. This calls into question some "unscrupulous" individuals, not the industry itself, as antibiotics do!
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Re: Eating ORGANIC: not a guarantee of food safety




by Obamot » 02/06/22, 09:51

Now in such a “hygienist” society, the populations no longer support anything. Even if I have nothing against the controls (and that we must also protect consumers despite the fact that they could have an unsatisfactory lifestyle...)

A few reminders of “fresh” products, just in one store (with organic too):

Recall date: 20/05/2022
SMOKED COOKED CHICKEN – VOLANDRY
BAR CODE: 2 860050 followed by 6 random numbers.

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Recall date: 12/05/2022
SURIMI CRUMBS – CRAB FLAVOR – 180 G - OCEAN PEACH
BARCODE: 3564700128091

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Recall date: 11/05/2022
DUO OF GOAT'S BALLS TOMATO/PAPRIKA - TAPENADE/POPPY - Les Croisés
BARCODE: 3564706581173

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Recall date: 28/04/2022
Amazonian nuts ORGANIC – ORGANIC VILLAGE – SOLD IN BULK

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Recall date: 31/03/2022
CHICKEN MASHED POTATOES WITH PARIS MUSHROOMS – L’ATELIER CATERING
BARCODE: 3664335053840

Source: https://www.e.leclerc/e/rappels-marque-repere
Other source: https://www.ladepeche.fr/2022/05/23/rap ... 312837.php

Perhaps this is "idiot“but reminders”in the fresh” there are still (there it was said that there had not been, clearly.)

Here the government list, with many “BIO” products in “fresh” : Arrow: https://rappel.conso.gouv.fr/categorie/0/1/bio
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Re: Eating ORGANIC: not a guarantee of food safety




by Janic » 02/06/22, 10:33

02/06/22, 09:51
Here the government list, with many “BIO” products in “fresh” : Arrow: https://rappel.conso.gouv.fr/categorie/0/1/bio

especially a lot of processed products!
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by Janic » 02/06/22, 12:41

The nullard would do well to listen to the FR3 newspaper of this day on INRA which is seriously studying how to do without pesticides as provided for in Europe and oddly inspired by the methods used by organic! Weird! enough to displease his agrochemical friends!
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