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Re: Eat insects! Let's be insectivores




by Janic » 06/12/20, 08:09

Moindreffor »05/12/20, 21:10
Jesus multiplied the loaves and the fish ... not the courgettes and the turnips ...
and in addition he prides himself on theology! : Shock: You should see YOUR classics again! : Twisted: assuming you have some ?! :frown:
and hop, a little more:

OWEN Richard Owen - 1804-1892:
English naturalist. Studied with the French Georges Cuvier Anatomy and Comparative Physiology. Author of: "Cours d'Anatomie Comparée" and "Palaeontology and Physiology of Vertebrates".
- "Anthropoids and all quadrumans derive their food from fruits, seeds and other succulent plant substances; and the strict analogy between the structure of these animals and that of humans clearly demonstrates their natural frugivorism. ".
- "Monkeys whose dentition is roughly equal to that of humans live mainly on fruits, nuts and other similar varieties of tasty texture and nutritional value developed by the plant kingdom.
The profound similarity between the dentition of quadrumanes and those of humans demonstrates that humans were originally adapted to eat the fruits of trees. "

PITMAN Sir Isaac Pitman - 1813-1897:
Inventor of English shorthand.
"I could not kill an ox or a hen and especially not a lamb; if I myself cannot do these things without hurting my good feelings, I also refuse to have other people do them, thus hurting their feelings. That is enough to induce me to accept a meat-deprived diet. "

PLATON Plato - 427-348 / 347 (?) BC:
Disciple of Socrates.


- In his book "The Republic", Plato quotes Socrates who recommends vegetarianism: "This diet would allow a nation to use intelligently its agricultural resources. "

Clearly, even 4 century BC, the questions of nutrition and agriculture were the same!
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Re: Eat insects! Let's be insectivores




by Moindreffor » 06/12/20, 14:01

Janic wrote:
Moindreffor »05/12/20, 21:10
Jesus multiplied the loaves and the fish ... not the courgettes and the turnips ...
and in addition he prides himself on theology! : Shock: You should see YOUR classics again! : Twisted: assuming you have some ?! :frown:
and hop, a little more:

OWEN Richard Owen - 1804-1892:
English naturalist. Studied with the French Georges Cuvier Anatomy and Comparative Physiology. Author of: "Cours d'Anatomie Comparée" and "Palaeontology and Physiology of Vertebrates".
- "Anthropoids and all quadrumans derive their food from fruits, seeds and other succulent plant substances; and the strict analogy between the structure of these animals and that of humans clearly demonstrates their natural frugivorism. ".
- "Monkeys whose dentition is roughly equal to that of humans live mainly on fruits, nuts and other similar varieties of tasty texture and nutritional value developed by the plant kingdom.
The deep similarity between the dentition of quadrumanes and those of humans demonstrates that humans were originally adapted to eat the fruits of trees."

when we say at its origin it is that it no longer after evolution, and differentiation of the monkey, so thank you for demonstrating it
yesterday excellent report on the hunting techniques of chimpanzees to capture small monkeys and eat them, so if chimpanzees develop elaborate hunting techniques it is good that this part of meat diet is not anecdotal
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Re: Eat insects! Let's be insectivores




by Janic » 06/12/20, 15:00

when we say at its origin it is that it no longer after evolution, and differentiation of the monkey, so thank you for demonstrating it
It is a simple demonstration that individuals can, not that they must, violate the laws of physiology and that there is no evolution when none of the parameters establishing an anatomy are changed. You cannot (well if you allow yourself to) deny all the rules universally established for all living beings and scientifically recognized, just to self-justify yourself! [*]
yesterday excellent report on the hunting techniques of chimpanzees to capture small monkeys and eat them, so if chimpanzees develop elaborate hunting techniques it is good that this part of meat diet is not anecdotal
Yes, it is well known! In some circumstances this happens to them, not all the time. With the particularity that they do it with the anatomically present means, their speed of movement, their canines which make it possible to tear flesh, absent with us, and especially no cooking, or culinary preparations to mask the taste and the smell. dead flesh. and even less refrigerators which slow down the decomposition of the victim's flesh without which you could not even tear and chew your tidbit. So try!
I doubt you can do the same, any more than your distant ancestors!
[*] This is all spit ABC! : Evil:
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Re: Eat insects! Let's be insectivores




by Janic » 07/12/20, 09:35

and a little more, when there is more there is still some!

PLUTARQUE born in Chéronée in Boeotia around 46 AD. AD, died around 125, is a major historian and thinker of ancient Rome from Greece, who was influenced by the philosophical stream of Middle Platonism.

For a little flesh, we take from them the life, the sun, the light and the course of a life prefixed by nature: and we think that the cries which they utter for fear are not articulated, that they do not mean nothing, where they are only prayers, supplications and justifications from each of these poor moaning beasts (...) Do we regard the loss of a soul as indifferent? I want it not to be, as Empedocles believes, that of a father, a mother, a son or a friend; it is always that of a being who feels, who sees and who hears, who has imagination and intelligence, faculties that each animal has received from nature to obtain what suits him and avoid what can harm him. "
- Plutarch, If it is permissible to eat flesh120,121.

PYTHAGORE
Pythagoras - 570-480 (?) Before JC:

Greek mathematician and philosopher of antiquity.

- "As long as men slaughter animals, they will kill each other. Indeed, he who sows the seeds of murder and suffering cannot reap joy and love. "
- "The earth gives abundant riches and peaceful food. It offers us meals which are not stained. neither blood nor murder.
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Re: Eat insects! Let's be insectivores




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re continued

John Ray - 1628-1704
English botanist, one of the most eminent naturalists of his time:


- "In no way does man have the constitution of a carnivore. Hunting and voracity are not natural to him. Man has neither the sharp teeth nor the claws to kill and tear his prey to pieces. Rather, his hands are made for picking fruits, berries, and vegetables, and his teeth are suitable for chewing them.

- "Everything we need to eat, eat and feast is abundantly provided in Nature's inexhaustible store. What a pleasant, pleasant and innocent vision that a table frugally served, and what a difference from a meal composed of smoldering and slaughtered animal flesh.In short, our orchards offer all the delicacies imaginable, while slaughterhouses and butchers are full of coagulated blood, and an abominable stench.
Boom, badaboum, tsein, tsoin, another naturalist who knows what he's talking about!


ROBBINS John Robbins - 1947 -....:
American writer, author of "The Food Revolution" and the bestseller "Diet for a New America" ​​(translated into French under the title: "Eat without hurting")
- "I harvested cabbages and picked carrots and I also visited slaughterhouses: these experiences cannot be compared".
- "No need to deprive yourself: it is only a question of better understanding how to eat in the healthiest, most pleasant, most nutritious way on the one hand, and the most economical, the most generous, the least polluting. 'somewhere else. [...] Life as a whole would benefit: you, mankind, animals, forests, rivers, soil, oceans, and the earth's atmosphere. "
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SAND George Sand - 1804–1876:
French writer.

“It will be a great advance in the evolution of the human race when we eat fruit and carnivores disappear from Earth. Everything will be doable on this Earth as long as we end meat meals and wars. . "

SCHWEITZER Albert Schweitzer - 1875-1965: Alsatian missionary doctor, philosopher and theologian. Nobel Peace Prize 1953.
"To give honor to Life means to feel shame for the act of killing."
“Until he extends the circle of his compassion to all living creatures, man himself will not find peace.” “In the old days, believing that colored men were really men and to be treated humanely was considered madness. Today, it is considered exaggerated to claim that one of the duties imposed by rational ethics is to respect what lives, even in its lower forms. But one day, one will be astonished that it has taken so long for humanity to admit that reckless depredations caused to what lives are incompatible with ethics. "
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Re: Eat insects! Let's be insectivores




by Janic » 12/12/20, 09:12

go one last shot for the road, for the attention of indifferent meat lovers, before disappearing:

"ah, if god existed, he wouldn't allow such things"we say in the face of human death!
Why would he be more "moral" than the humans themselves and their bloodthirsty basins?


SHELLEY percy : Percy Bysshe Shelley is a British poet, born near Horsham (Sussex) on August 4, 1792 and died at sea off the Spezia1 on July 8, 1822.

"Let the supporters of meat eating verify the validity of such a diet, that they tear a lamb still alive with their teeth [...] and plunge their head into its vital organs, quench their thirst in the smoking blood [ …] So will they be in agreement with their convictions. In a letter of March 14, 1812, his wife wrote to a friend: "We gave up meat to adopt Pythagorean thought". Shelley describes, in his poem The Queen Mab, a utopian world where human beings do not kill animals for food. "From now on, he will no longer kill the lamb looking at him, Will no longer devour his flesh. Because, as if to avenge the violated law of Nature, It poisoned, poisoned the body that engulfs it, awakened fatal passions, vain beliefs, Hatred, despair and disgust for everything, The seeds of misery , crime, disease, death. "

SINGER Isaac Bashevis Singer - 1904-1991:
Polish writer, naturalized American, Nobel Prize for Literature 1978.

- "It is often said that men have always eaten meat, as if it was a justification to continue to do so. By the same logic, we should not seek to prevent a man from killing another given as it always has been. "
- "We are all creatures of God; it is not reconcilable to invoke Divine Grace and Justice and to continue to eat the flesh of the animals which were slaughtered by our fault." To give to her daughter, only yesterday she was breastfeeding, that coarse diet of bloody meats. "

- All this verbiage about dignity, compassion, culture or morality seems ridiculous when it comes out of the very mouth of those who kill innocent creatures, chase foxes that their dogs have exhausted, or even encourage the existence of bullfights and slaughterhouses. All these explanations, according to which nature is cruel and therefore we are entitled to be cruel, are hypocrites. Nothing proves that man is more important than a butterfly or a cow. I consider becoming a vegetarian the greatest achievement of my life. I do not claim to save many animals from the slaughterhouse, but my refusal to eat meat is a protest against cruelty ... Personally, I do not believe there can be peace in this world as long as the animals will be treated as they are today.

SOCRATE Socrates - 470-399 BC:
Greek philosopher of antiquity.

- Socrates was a vegetarian and never wore leather or animal fur. Like Pythagoras, he argued that the habit of eating animal flesh drove humans to violence and war.

STAUSS Claude - Levy: born November 28, 1908 in Brussels1 and died October 30, 2009 in Paris is a French anthropologist and ethnologist who exercised a decisive influence on the human sciences in the second half of the twentieth century by being in particular one of the founding figures of thought structuralist.

“It is now (...) that exposing the defects of a humanism decidedly incapable of founding in man the exercise of virtue, Rousseau's thought can help us reject the illusion of which we are, alas! able to observe in ourselves and on ourselves the disastrous effects. For is it not the myth of the exclusive dignity of human nature that caused nature itself to suffer a first mutilation, from which other mutilation should inevitably follow? We began by cutting man off from nature and making him a sovereign reign; it was thus believed to erase his most irrefutable character, namely that he is first of all a living being. And by remaining blind to this common property, we have given free rein to all abuses. Never better than at the end of the last four centuries of its history could Western man understand that by arrogating to himself the right to radically separate humanity from animality, by granting to the one all that 'he refused the other, he opened a cursed circle, and that the same frontier, constantly pushed back, would serve to separate men from other men, and to claim for the benefit of ever smaller minorities the privilege of a corrupt humanism immediately born to have borrowed from self-love its principle and his notion. "
Claude Lévi-Strauss, structural anthropology (1973).

THOREAU
Henry David Thoreau - 1817-1862:

American writer.
- "There is no doubt for me that it enters the destiny of humanity, because it is gradually improving itself, to one day stop eating animals."

TOLSTOÏ Léon Tolstoï - 1828-1910:
Russian humanist and poet.
- "If someone aspires to a virtuous life, his first act must be to refrain from harming animals".
- "From killing animals to killing people there is only one step, just like making animals suffer to make people suffer."
- "As long as there are slaughterhouses, there will also be battlefields."
- "Man can live and stay healthy without needing to kill animals for food. Therefore, eating meat makes co-responsible for the killing of animals perpetrated just to satisfy our palate. Take action. this way is immoral. It is such a simple fact that it is probably not possible to disagree. "
- "If man seriously and honestly seeks the path of morality, the first thing he must give up is the consumption of meat."
- "Vegetarianism is valid as the basic criterion with which we can recognize whether man seriously aspires to moral perfection. Meat food is a primitive residue; switching to a vegetarian diet is the first manifestation of education."

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Leonardo da Vinci - 1452-1519:

Painter, sculptor, engineer and architect, Italian artist whose genius is universally recognized.

- "I rejected meat since very early in my childhood and the time will come when men, like me, will watch the killing of animals as they now watch the murder of their fellow human beings."
- "You defined man as the King of Animals; I on the other hand, I would say that man is the king of ferocious beasts among which you are the greatest. Did you not actually kill and eat the animals to satisfy the pleasures of your palate, turning yourself into a grave for all these animals? Does not nature produce enough vegetable food to satisfy you? "

VOLTAIRE François Marie Arouet, known as "Voltaire" - 1694-1778:
French philosopher and writer.
- "It is certain that this terrible bloodbath continuously perpetrated in our slaughterhouses and in our kitchens no longer appears to us as a crime; on the contrary, we consider these abominations, which are often accompanied by a pestilential odor, as a blessing of the Lord and in our prayers we thank him for the creatures we have killed. "
- "But is there anything more abominable than to continually feed on the meat of corpses?"

YOURCENAR Marguerite Yourcenar - 1903-1987 : Writer, woman of letters, French and American nationalities. First woman elected to the Académie Française in 1980.

"Like Zeno, I dislike" digesting agonies. "
Let’s be subversive. Let us revolt against ignorance, indifference, cruelty, which moreover is not so often exercised against man because they have made their hand over beasts. Let us remember, if we always have to bring everything back to ourselves, that there would be fewer child martyrs if there were fewer tortured animals, fewer lead wagons bringing the victims of any dictatorship to death. , if we hadn't gotten used to wagons where animals are dying without food or water while waiting for the slaughterhouse.
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Re: Eat insects! Let's be insectivores




by izentrop » 07/02/21, 15:40

Low tech process to produce compost in 10 days and larvae for chickens or human consumption
The yield is more than interesting: 1 kg of black soldier fly eggs generates an average of 10 tonnes of live larvae and eliminates 40 to 50 tonnes of food waste. In just 10 days! To achieve the same result in composting, it would take 3 to 4 months ...

Not to mention the co-products. Also recoverable. This new sector makes it possible to produce animal proteins and insect oils which can be used in animal nutrition and replace, for example, fish meal in fish farming. https://www.ouest-france.fr/environneme ... es-5349722
The method https://wiki.lowtechlab.org/wiki/Elevag ... ats_Noires
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by izentrop » 02/02/23, 15:10

gegyx wrote:Why eat this uncertified shit, sprinkling it all over the place?
Don't worry, you'll eat them, or you'll leave them to those who appreciate : Twisted:
In France they do not want to miss this boat, a factory has just been built next to my house...
[Job alert] About sixty positions to be filled in the future Ynsect factory in Poulainville
To the north of Amiens, the company Ynsect built a farm-factory producing insect proteins. The company plans to create 500 jobs by 2023. 60 operators are wanted by the end of the year.
https://www.courrier-picard.fr/id321540 ... ine-ynsect
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by Christophe » 02/02/23, 15:15

Watch out they don't come looking for you!

Because between the shit fly and the cockroach, they could target you! : Lol: : Lol: : Lol:
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