Successful live soil cultivation in commercial production greenhouses

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Successful live soil cultivation in commercial production greenhouses




by izentrop » 21/10/21, 20:42

Thanks Adrien for the info agriculture / the-garden-of-lazy-garden-more-than-bio-without-fatigue-t13846-23630.html # p470240
We went from experimentation to replacing tomato cultivation in a greenhouse above ground on rock wool substrate to a "sustainable" culture on living soil, completely made on site, a great advance ...

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by humus » 22/10/21, 07:39

izentrop wrote:Thanks Adrien for the info agriculture / the-garden-of-lazy-garden-more-than-bio-without-fatigue-t13846-23630.html # p470240
We went from experimentation to replacing tomato cultivation in a greenhouse above ground on rock wool substrate to a "sustainable" culture on living soil, completely made on site, a great advance ...


Perhaps the opportunity to change the logic of thought and slide towards the logic of living agriculture, for ALL agriculture, instead of the traditional biocides and chemical fertilizers that you regularly promote for arable crops.
It's probably a little more difficult to do in an uncontrolled atmosphere, but it must be possible.
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by Christophe » 22/10/21, 07:44

Uh, wouldn't that be the industrial application of the sloth's vegetable garden?

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by Obamot » 22/10/21, 10:51

Izentrop ate a naturopath for breakfast. it looks like? : Lol:

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by izentrop » 22/10/21, 13:58

humus wrote:Perhaps the opportunity to change the logic of thought and slide towards the logic of living agriculture, for ALL agriculture, instead of the traditional biocides and chemical fertilizers that you regularly promote for arable crops.
It is undoubtedly a little more difficult to do in an uncontrolled atmosphere but it must be possible.
Yes because there, it differs little from hydroponics.

To avoid bringing in diseases and pests from the outside, the initial soil is probably sterilized. The compost is made with selected leaves and branches, then a controlled rise in temperature to eliminate seeds and parasites. NPK is also closely monitored to be the most suitable for tomatoes. As Mulet says, the final quality difference is probably tiny.

The plus is earthworms and "carbon storage" ... though.
They will be able to create a "earthworm, living soil" label, added value compared to the competition. : Wink:
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by Obamot » 22/10/21, 17:48

izentrop wrote:
humus wrote:Perhaps the opportunity to change the logic of thought and slide towards the logic of living agriculture, for ALL agriculture, instead of the traditional biocides and chemical fertilizers that you regularly promote for arable crops.
It is undoubtedly a little more difficult to do in an uncontrolled atmosphere but it must be possible.
Yes because there, it differs little from hydroponics.

To avoid bringing in diseases and pests from the outside, the initial soil is probably sterilized. The compost is made with selected leaves and branches, then a controlled rise in temperature to eliminate seeds and parasites. NPK is also closely monitored to be the most suitable for tomatoes. As Mulet says, the final quality difference is probably tiny.

The plus is earthworms and "carbon storage" ... though.
They will be able to create a "earthworm, living soil" label, added value compared to the competition. : Wink:
How can you manage to reconcile the sterilization of the earth, with the need for exchange of plants through the mycelium?

The sterilization of the earth leading to its disappearance.
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by izentrop » 23/10/21, 02:11

Obamot wrote:How can you manage to reconcile the sterilization of the earth, with the need for exchange of plants through the mycelium?

The sterilization of the earth leading to its disappearance.
Just inoculate the roots of the plant or the compost with the strain that is going well https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... e_substrat
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by Obamot » 23/10/21, 04:41

It is possible, but in this case the land is no longer barren.

Trichoderma IS a mycelium

white mycelium known as “alpine white complex” (also including Morteriella parvispora which “felt” the roots by improving their exchanges with the soil
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by Obamot » 23/10/21, 05:22

PS:
and without wanting to offend you, I find it a bit paradoxical to say “Soil culture vivant successful”, While suggesting that it would be sterile?

I myself have tried to sterilize the earth by drying it as much as possible in direct sunlight, by putting a small layer on a reflective metal surface, no waste of time ... It withstands extreme natural conditions.

Besides, tomatoes grow very well on blown clay balls (terracotta)
Would it just be enough that the spores were blown away ...?
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by izentrop » 23/10/21, 11:36

Obamot wrote:I find it a bit paradoxical to say “Soil culture vivant successful”, While suggesting that it would be sterile?
I wrote "the earth initial is probably sterilized ".

In their culture containers, there must be a mixture of compost and soil and all of this must not harbor pathogens in this hyper-controlled environment.
I have no data, but a steam treatment before incorporation into the rest is not excluded? Https: //www.agrireseau.net/documents/Document_97008.pdf

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