Breeding cows and Salers in Livradois (Auvergne)

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Re: Cows and Livestock Salers in Livradois (Auvergne)

by Janic » 26/08/19, 17:07

Ah, ah, ah! Bouffer is a popular expression which means to eat abundantly, which is the case of the average consumption of meat which went from 35 kg to 19 ° beginning of the 20 ° century to 85 kg in France with the same consequences as the consumption of sugar or animal fat. But it does not matter, our miraculous medicine is there to distribute its anti-all drugs?
https://www.viande.info/
http://presse.inra.fr/Communiques-de-pr ... -en-France
and if you read your message you say that the bull of the pub will not end on the plate which is wrong,
Learn to read first. I take the example of oxen, cows, or calves and heifers as an example of the final fate reserved for all. No breeder keeps animals that made his fame, in the field, until their natural death, must not dream! Not even belly recognition!
so to be less restrictive, go back and eat your "organic" vegetables and let us appreciate the beautiful animals and the excellent work of the breeders.
but I appreciate all the beautiful animals, without limitation and even the work of all breeders in all categories because it is not their work that is questioned, but the final fate of all their efforts: the death ... of others !
the new fashion is the conversion of vegetarians to cattle-friendly farming because ultimately it's better for the planet
More and more funny! I can not! (not food!) : Cheesy: : Cheesy: : Cheesy: it is not for the future that such a reverse will occur, on the contrary and the planet will only get better!
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Re: Cows and Livestock Salers in Livradois (Auvergne)

by Moindreffor » 26/08/19, 17:22

Janic wrote: but I appreciate all the beautiful animals, without limitation and even the work of all breeders in all categories because it is not their work that is questioned, but the final fate of all their efforts: the death ... of others !

you appreciate a job but not the purpose of this job, you are ready for any contradiction

moinsffor wrote:the new trend is the conversion of vegetarians to respectful cattle farming because ultimately it's better for the planet in the end

Janic wrote:More and more funny! I can not! (not food!) : Cheesy: : Cheesy: : Cheesy: it is not for the future that such a reverse will occur, on the contrary and the planet will only get better!

read the newspapers, those of this century of course ...
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by Janic » 26/08/19, 18:00

janic wrote: but I appreciate all the beautiful animals, without limitation and even the work of all breeders in all categories because it is not their work that is questioned, but the final fate of all their efforts: the death ... of others!
you appreciate a job but not the purpose of this job, you are ready for any contradiction
ouarf! The purpose of an exhibition, whether animal or otherwise, is not the destruction of the elements presented, otherwise it would be a slaughterhouse. An exhibition of painting and sculpture is not used to destroy the works. Then that everyone does what he wants is his right as breeders to slaughter these animals. But a painter destroying his works has no chance of enriching himself, or at least of ensuring his subsistence. This is what the breeder does, not with inanimate matter, but with living beings. There is a slight nuance that seems not to have been perceived.
Janic wrote :De more and more funny! I can not! (Not food!) It is not for tomorrow that will happen similar reverse, on the contrary and the planet will be better than it!
read the newspapers, those of this century of course ...
do you mean those edited by the livestock industry? The document of INRA above is a little more credible, updated in 2017 so this century, even if he is not opposed to breeding. You should not only browse it, but study it, to change!
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Re: Cows and Livestock Salers in Livradois (Auvergne)

by Moindreffor » 26/08/19, 19:51

Janic wrote:ouarf! The purpose of an exhibition, whether animal or otherwise, is not the destruction of the elements presented, otherwise it would be a slaughterhouse. An exhibition of painting and sculpture is not used to destroy the works. Then that everyone does what he wants is his right as breeders to slaughter these animals. But a painter destroying his works has no chance of enriching himself, or at least of ensuring his subsistence. This is what the breeder does, not with inanimate matter, but with living beings. There is a slight nuance that seems not to have been perceived.

breeder, craft, what evolution ....
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Re: Cows and Livestock Salers in Livradois (Auvergne)

by Remundo » 26/08/19, 20:53

Janic is happy: he has launched his n-th anti-breeding polemic as a vehement vegetarian.

and it works, and the more you answer him, the more he will make you slices of bread; my faith with talent.

that he is vegetarian does not bother me, that he is intolerant yes.
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by Janic » 27/08/19, 07:40

Janic is happy: he has launched his n-th anti-breeding controversy as a surly vegetarian.
Aggressive does not seem to me adequate, I prefer him passionate, as others are for hunting, bullfighting, or war games. Except that all these are focused on death, destruction, not on life and respect for all.
and it works, and the more you answer him, the more he will make you slices of bread; my faith with talent.
thanks for the talent, but it's not talent, just common sense and logic. Your job (close to mine) is entirely based on these two elements except that there is no need to involve pro or anti life "good feelings" and respect for it. (Although the industrialization of our societies shows that it has served more to destroy it than to preserve it and we are paying the price ... ecological.)
he is vegetarian do not bother me, he is intolerant yes
To denounce violence, death, is intolerance? From all ages, wise men and philosophers have denounced it until our time, showing that violence can not be solved by maintaining it in various forms, including that which we humans give to other forms of life. no longer by vital necessity, but by culture, habit, and vanity. As a former consumer of bidoche (and therefore pacifist), I have read and heard only intolerance vis-à-vis all that is not conformist with the society of the moment, whether in food , health, ethics, so do not reverse things to justify a culture that varies from country to country, which shows the random side. But the great laws physiology, anatomy, they are not random, but identical throughout the earth and adapted to each living individual and he can not transgress without having to suffer the disadvantages. : Cry: and for the specialist in mechanics and teaching of it, you are among the best placed to know it!

We attribute to Bossuet, I believe, this formula: "God laughs at men who deplore the effects of which they cherish the causes." And if you consult, rationally, the causes of mortality, in France alone, the god in question indeed something to laugh about! : Cheesy: 8) and whine!
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Re: Cows and Livestock Salers in Livradois (Auvergne)

by Remundo » 27/08/19, 08:17

life is nothing without death, and vice versa. Moreover, it is an opportunity to revise a classic:

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by Moindreffor » 27/08/19, 08:18

Remundo wrote:Janic is happy: he has launched his n-th anti-breeding polemic as a vehement vegetarian.

and it works, and the more you answer him, the more he will make you slices of bread; my faith with talent.

that he is vegetarian does not bother me, that he is intolerant yes.

what do you want he knows how to be hated and even if we know that it is embarking on a sterile debate with him, we can not resist ...
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Re: Cows and Livestock Salers in Livradois (Auvergne)

by Remundo » 27/08/19, 08:25

I fear that the initial message will be lost ...
Remundo wrote:to change our air, and if you have the opportunity to spend near Thiers, Saint Jean des Ollières (63) in the Livradois ...

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More details here: http://elevage.salers.free.fr/actualite ... #Aout_2019
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Re: Cows and Livestock Salers in Livradois (Auvergne)

by Moindreffor » 27/08/19, 08:35

Remundo wrote:I fear that the initial message will be lost ...
Remundo wrote:to change our air, and if you have the opportunity to spend near Thiers, Saint Jean des Ollières (63) in the Livradois ...

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More details here: http://elevage.salers.free.fr/actualite ... #Aout_2019

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