Conservation agriculture

[humus]

04/08/22, 08:20
humus

In the same vein, finally he should not fear mildew in his dry and hot region.

downy mildew only spreads on plants that are poorly adapted to the local microcosm. Plant diseases are like human diseases, namely that the microbe (the parasite, the fungus, the bacterium) only develops in fragile subjects. "The microbe is nothing, the ground is everything" Claude BERNARD
Point of view in total opposition to pasteurism. and his obsession with nasty germs.

No doubt, in any case my tomato seeds of yet "old" varieties or at least not F1, last year did not resist mildew, whereas last year with the same seeds, it was the jackpot .
The ground has long been BRFized so a priori good.
Last year's cold and rainy weather was hard to take.
It's probably like placing a Tuareg at the North Pole, everything has its limits of adaptation, it takes time.
I have since learned a technique (never used): spraying baking soda on the affected areas.
My objective would in fact be the adaptation of the seeds to the soil and the local climate, via epigentics, even if it means losing a lot of crops to achieve this. but I haven't done it yet.
I am a man of projects...which pile up

[sicetaitsimple]

Without a doubt,.....

No, no, don't say "probably"!
Janic is our specialist in "yaka do like a hundred years ago and everything will be fine".
But hey, if it were enough to choose a variety of seeds supposedly "adapted to a terroir" to overcome the risk of mildew, it would be a long time since agronomic researchers and farmers would have identified them. The same for other diseases and other varieties (than tomato or potato for example with regard to mildew).
It's all rubbish (unless you want to try the impossible, of course), a hundred years ago the productivity of agriculture was much lower than today and famines were recurrent.

PS: an illustration, even if it is more than a century old.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grande_famine_irlandaise

[izentrop]

In my garden, it becomes problematic, with a sandy soil although rich in organic matter (currently partially mulched), but a well that only provides sparingly due to the low winter rainfall... Exit also summer storms of yesteryear...

For water it's ok, I made reserves 4000 l of rainwater this winter. On the other hand, it's the first year, it seems to me that the sun is grilling me leaves, fruits and vegetables like that?

[humus]

Without a doubt,.....

No, no, don't say "probably"!
Janic is our specialist in "yaka do like a hundred years ago and everything will be fine".

Without a doubt

But hey, if it were enough to choose a variety of seeds supposedly "adapted to a terroir" to overcome the risk of mildew, it would be a long time since agronomic researchers and farmers would have identified them. The same for other diseases and other varieties (than tomato or potato for example with regard to mildew).
It's all rubbish (unless you want to try the impossible, of course), a hundred years ago the productivity of agriculture was much lower than today and famines were recurrent.

PS: an illustration, even if it is more than a century old.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grande_famine_irlandaise

Without a doubt but epigentics, assuming it ever works in my house, it will only work in my house or in a similar climate/soil.
It cannot be generalized to a country and therefore not of interest to seed manufacturers.
And then I'm not expecting a tomato free from mildew but simply supporting mildew.

For Ireland, I'm not sure that epigentics could have worked one day, it would have been necessary to go through the fruit and therefore through potato seeds to eventually have resistant plants.
I don't know if the tuber can transmit genetic adaptation?

I am not a market gardener, I can afford to try the experiment.

[sicetaitsimple]

I am not a market gardener, I can afford to try the experiment.

Oh but you do what you want!
Maybe one day you will be the Pascal Poot of I don't know which region (you didn't specify it in your profile)!

[Janic]

04/08/22, 18:07
simpleton

Janic is our specialist in "yaka do like a hundred years ago and everything will be fine".

and simpleton who returns to his usual simplississisms

But hey, if it were enough to choose a variety of seeds supposedly "adapted to a region" to overcome the risk of mildew, it would be a long time since agricultural researchers and the farmers would have identified them.

Which ? Those who are subsidized by hybrid seed and chemical merchants?

The same for other diseases and other varieties (than tomato or potato for example with regard to mildew).

another simplicity! Downy mildew attacks the most fragile plants like human diseases,

It's all rubbish (unless you want to try the impossible, of course), a hundred years ago the productivity of agriculture was much lower than today and famines were recurrent.

effectively! Your speech is rubbish, a copy paste of product merchants ruining farmers.
100 years ago agriculture fed ITS population without exporting to other countries and therefore it was enough for its inhabitants, The rest is the current business which is done, again, on the backs of "poor" farmers who do not have huge fields to cultivate, which are in the hands of the fully mechanized and stock market-listed wholesalers.
Finally the famines! So do a bit of history, they were linked to wars and plunder more than to natural elements, random as they are now.

[sicetaitsimple]

Voui vui, "yakafairecommeyacentans".

Uh, can you remind us of the French and world population a hundred years ago?

[Janic]

04/08/22, 19:47

Voui vui, "yakafairecommeyacentans".

simple and dumb as well. He must be unaware that agriculture and history are a little over 100 years old. On the other hand, AB does, not with theoreticians working for agrochemicals, but with farmers in the field!
PS: "yakafairecommeyacentans" is always better than "yakafairecommeMonsanto"

[sicetaitsimple]

PS: "yakafairecommeyacentans" is always better than "yakafairecommeMonsanto"

You see, I make you happy!
So, how many mouths to feed 100 years ago in France and around the world?

[Ahmed]

All the same, the long-distance trade in food products is quite old: the circum-Mediterranean countries (North Africa and Sicily) were the granaries of Rome and, to take an example closer in time, England of the XIX ^th century promulgated grain laws (abolition of customs duties) which made it possible to feed the country cheaply and thus to run its industry (with the low wages that this measure allowed)...