Cereals: production, energy and human and animal consumption

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Re: Cereals: production, energy and human and animal consumption




by Janic » 27/07/22, 18:40

thus overcoming the difficulty encountered by Janic.
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by Obamot » 27/07/22, 18:43

Janic wrote:
thus overcoming the difficulty encountered by Janic.
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Bain yes, you do not put the names of the people you quote, for convenience... well from now on I will do like you... : Cheesy:
Ce forum is time-consuming and there is a certain malice in mobbing those who make correct and valuable contributions...

(I see the sarcasm coming...) : Mrgreen: Well Christophe, you had to think about it before...
Anyway, this political mess has become a vast farce that no longer deceives anyone... I think I've done the job.
And if in addition we have to waste our time, it's too time-consuming... I've given enough, I'm on other platforms...
I'm overwhelmed with the “scoops” (everything is coming out at the moment, it's a festival...) but I won't have time to share them, something else to do.

By the way Janic, you should send me your email in private, thank you.
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Re: Cereals: production, energy and human and animal consumption




by sicetaitsimple » 27/07/22, 19:21

Obamot wrote: I know what I'm worth, I'm a cool guy....,


Everyone realized this a long time ago forum.....super cool, dude.
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Re: Cereals: production, energy and human and animal consumption




by Christophe » 27/07/22, 19:25

sicetaitsimple wrote:
Obamot wrote: I know what I'm worth, I'm a cool guy....,


Everyone realized this a long time ago forum.....super cool, dude.


Yes we know what he wants : Mrgreen: ...Hey, they're missing from this topic! Go hop to work, the one who knows everything!
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by Janic » 27/07/22, 20:06

Janic wrote:
thus overcoming the difficulty encountered by Janic.
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obamot
Bain yes, you do not put the names of the people you quote, for convenience... well from now on I will do like you...
Not quite! Useless to give the name of people who are not on the Internet, their knowledge being developed in odd things which one calls...books, and which are not or little diffused in conservative circles and even retrograde. ...like the funny ones! :(
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by Obamot » 27/07/22, 21:11

Christophe wrote:
Yes we know what he wants : Mrgreen: ...

cow, pig... sunk... i wasn't so cool before... : Mrgreen: Regrets? Should I kick the train to whom? Image Image
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by sicetaitsimple » 27/07/22, 22:19

Janic wrote:https://sante.lefigaro.fr/fiches-7
this kind of article means everything and nothing like all the abstract averages ....

Well, okay, these are indicative values, with margins. This one talks about:
11 to 15% protein
45 to 60% carbohydrates
35 to 40% lipids
with regard to caloric intake (vitamins, minerals subject to other target values).

So since that means everything and nothing according to you, you must have another "ideal" distribution?
And do you agree with what your friend Obamot said a little above "we still consume 10 to 20x too many carbohydrates / proteins (cereals are one of them)". If so, what do we replace it with? Lipids?
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by Obamot » 27/07/22, 22:29

Yours ? : Cheesy:

sicetaitsimple wrote:35 to 40% lipids

The Omega acid requirements are wrong (I had published a table)

sicetaitsimple wrote: your buddy Obamot
I'm also your friend : Mrgreen: but you don't listen to me...!


sicetaitsimple wrote: "we still consume 10 to 20x too many carbohydrates / proteins (cereals are one of them)". If so, what do we replace it with?

Lipids?
Pffff We think we're dreaming... You do a biocheck and you'll see all the mistakes YOU make, comprehend?

(In general: lack of vegetables (especially root vegetables, potatoes) and legumes...)
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by sicetaitsimple » 27/07/22, 22:47

You still there? I understood that you had much better, more interesting and less time-consuming to do elsewhere?
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Re: Cereals: production, energy and human and animal consumption




by Obamot » 27/07/22, 23:38

You can see that I am “your friend” : Idea: Simple...
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