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by Christophe » 01/08/13, 15:39

"We" take advantage of the holidays to pass on a few things "on the sly":

Thursday August 1 - 14:26 p.m.

Monsanto's MON-810 GM corn ban suspended
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by Did67 » 01/08/13, 17:18

A little terse, this message.

I do not think that it is a measure in secret ... since it is a court decision, which was in the pipes.

[there have been secret decisions by the government, especially on tax exemption ceilings drastically lowered, a "technical" measure that went unnoticed!]

So let's take stock:

a) The European Union has authorized the cultivation of Mon810! This authorization, for a period of 5 years, would run until 2007 (all these figures from memory).

The question of a new authorization is under "re-evaluation".

b) France, like other European countries, "decreed" a moratorium, arguing of the "precautionary principle" (former government).

Other countries (notably Spain) apply European law and authorize culture ...

c) In France, the Council of State, which judges the laws and acts of the government, comes, for the second time, to invalidate "legally" this decision of moratorium of the government, on the grounds that it does not comply with European law.

From the outset, for specialists, it was clear that from a legal point of view, this moratorium was fragile!

It is therefore not a decision on whether or not it is dangerous, or whether it is harmless. It is a decision of a legal nature: the French government does not have the right to take a decision contrary to European law.

And as always, Europe is a question of compromise; in the rgos half for / half against; it falls on one side or the other ... The lobbies are strong ... So on this question, it was for.

d) The French government remains against! But he may not have a valid legal weapon.

It seems that there are one or two tracks:

- a vote of the European Parliament would authorize the States to decide on a moratorium

- to apply it, a majority would be required at the level of the Council of European Ministers; the old government had voted against ... If the new government decides for the application, the majority could topple ... The vote become applicable ...

- the fact that the authorization is "expired" would also open another legal loophole that can be exploited by the government.
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by Forhorse » 02/08/13, 13:18

It's beautiful Europe, it makes it possible to pass laws that nobody wants "we can nothing there, it is Europe" a little too easy as an excuse I find.
Our rulers should become aware that everyone is starting to get a little fed up with "Europe" and that if they continue to justify questionable decisions with this pretext, the extremes (especially the FN) end up winning a substantial political weight.
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by Did67 » 02/08/13, 15:37

In my opinion, it's a little more complicated anyway: if "'Europe" has autocrossed, it is because there is a qualified majority of governments which are in favor.

It is not a decision that fell from the sky ...

Sometimes Europe is more "green" than a government taken individually (ours for example). It has imposed drastic standards on engine emissions (which the lobby of French manufacturers might have delayed in France alone) ... It is also all the directives relating to a minimum rate of renewable energy ... or organic farming (with a large household in the list of authorized pesticides - list from which France regularly derogates) ... It is also directives on the protection of natural spaces (here again, France is threatened with 'a very large fine for insufficiently protecting the Alsatian hamster, an endangered species, for example) ... We could find many other examples.

For me, Europe is not the "absolute evil" not itself. And I am not sure that alone France would be so advanced on many points.

But on the question of GMOs, in fact, the "more liberal" countries are dominant in Euorpe ... It is a fact. Given the economic impact of such or such a decision (if each country "weighs" little, Europe weighs heavy), industrial lobbying is very, very powerful in Brussels.

And the "green" parliamentarians not very numerous in the European Parliament in Strasbourg !!!

After that "Europe" (without specifying) becomes a scapegoat for a lot of fools (I'm talking about mevings you are referring to), it's regrettable. Simple, imbecile and definitive raguments have always been convincing. Remember that Hitler came to power in a very democratic way, with just his big mouth, his simple ideas and the art of speech / comedy. This long before Europe. imbeciles always find their arguments, without looking for a long time ... It is true that Europe, if we do not think for five seconds, is a found one.
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by fabio.gel » 02/08/13, 15:50

Unfortunately, as long as money is king, bribing by making a good big transfer to a small offshore account is still too easy. : Cry:
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by Zypp0 » 20/08/13, 16:43

Monsanto is a second-hand and sick (unusable) corn that has been treated to preserve it and make it compatible with all biologically contaminated land and of course sold at the price of new!, It is better to take real new corn. price. In two words, it is a "grandfather" corn which already attracts worms and which we wish to preserve by a miraculous makeover, deadly for small eaters and completely harmless, clean and holy for man ..?! it's astonishing but they already said that with chemicals (supposedly zero defect) which were certainly removed later for lack of visible proof, time and sufficient material. We are a bit at the stage of experiments like at the beginning of experimental nuclear power when they believed that everything was still harmless and harmless.

It's not complicated, they just have to put corn or there are not these harmful insects for him, and or there are insect harmful for the corn they put something other than him, so there is no having to eat the inedible.
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