Auxiliary cats of organic farming

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Re: Auxiliary cats from organic farming




by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 08/01/19, 15:53

perplex wrote:I started by buying a tube (Friday), which will end in an attic staircase, I immediately saw the extent of the job to do something reasonable :)

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Wow ... well I am not a specialist but (unless I am mistaken) your nest boxes are mobile or do I like it?
If that's what I doubt (for nest boxes) that this is the right solution, did you ask the LPO for advice?
But maybe I get it wrong, personally I would opt for the FIXED type as below.

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The LPO link which provides examples
https://boutique.lpo.fr/catalogue/jardi ... /nichoirs/

The LPO brochure
https://auvergne-rhone-alpes.lpo.fr/act ... un-nichoir
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Re: Auxiliary cats from organic farming




by perplex » 08/01/19, 16:01

As you could see there is a nest box fixed on the workshop, which has never seen anyone, they come in and come out right away (tits)
The birdhouses you see hanging should turn into a manger.
Before having cats 3 years, I had fixed and mobile feeders no customer concerns :) but never the crowd either ...
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 08/01/19, 16:10

perplex wrote:As you could see there is a nest box fixed on the workshop, which has never seen anyone, they come in and come out right away (tits)
The birdhouses you see hanging should turn into a manger.
Before having cats 3 years, I had fixed and mobile feeders no customer concerns :) but never the crowd either ...


I was not talking about fixed of course ... : Wink:

For no worries feeders
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by Leo Maximus » 08/01/19, 19:03

nico239 wrote:
Leo Maximus wrote:Abandoned cats that are not adopted end up in a gas chamber (see my post in another thread). It is the members of Hunting Societies (including one of my relatives) who take care of it and they receive subsidies for that. Cats are cremated and their ashes are used as fertilizer.


You have official info on that ...

Because the shelters are full of old cats ... unfortunately.

And what must remain of ashes once a cat cremated it must not be bezef so to make a 30kg bag that is NOT BIG THING on an industrial scale you have to kill a sacred package of cats for ONE ONLY BAG.

I have never heard of this, but I do want official information on the subject.

I am talking about the gassing of cats FOR a transformation into fertilizer. (and not the gassing of refuge animals)

Climate-change co2 / off-of-mass-anthropogenic-c-is-gone-my-dick-t12253-80.html

On the planet Bisounours, the 300000 corpses of cats abandoned and then euthanized each year by veterinarians are stuffed and exhibited in a huge museum. The museum now has more than 150 million stuffed cats and visitors, former owners of these cats, are extremely numerous and pay a high price for their entry ticket ... : Lol:

As reality always goes beyond fiction, the 300000 corpses of abandoned cats euthanized industrially each year (in France) are "recovered" by the industry. My home is incineration, mixed with other animal waste, and then it becomes a "raw material". In my department, we produce thousands of tonnes per year.

It is perfectly legal, it is the Prefect who defines / modifies the legal framework.

Cruel world ? : Mrgreen: We should start by condemning THREE heavily those who abandon animals, this damn world would be a little less cruel ...
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by Leo Maximus » 08/01/19, 19:29

Moindreffor wrote:... I completely agree with you, I ask myself the question of where to install my feeders so as not to gather the birds within reach of my cat's claws, and I will ask myself the same question for nest boxes,
why do you think the LPO refuge sign is provocative? for my part, it will be affixed on my garden shed in full view of nobody

The blow of the metal rod of 2 meters seems good to me, a cat will not be able to climb there, but it will hide nearby and wait until the birds are on the ground to jump on them, which will inevitably happen.

The wire mesh in a circle also protects the birds on the ground. At the start, I put concrete irons to fix the mesh to the ground and stiffen it, but that made their job easier, they climbed along the concrete irons! The mesh should be soft so that it bends when the cat begins to climb on it. He tries once, twice and then gives up. The mesh can be fixed to the ground with U-shaped irons.

There's nothing provocative about an invisible LPO sign from the street ...
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 08/01/19, 20:03

Leo Maximus wrote:
nico239 wrote:
Leo Maximus wrote:Abandoned cats that are not adopted end up in a gas chamber (see my post in another thread). It is the members of Hunting Societies (including one of my relatives) who take care of it and they receive subsidies for that. Cats are cremated and their ashes are used as fertilizer.


You have official info on that ...

Because the shelters are full of old cats ... unfortunately.

And what must remain of ashes once a cat cremated it must not be bezef so to make a 30kg bag that is NOT BIG THING on an industrial scale you have to kill a sacred package of cats for ONE ONLY BAG.

I have never heard of this, but I do want official information on the subject.

I am talking about the gassing of cats FOR a transformation into fertilizer. (and not the gassing of refuge animals)

Climate-change co2 / off-of-mass-anthropogenic-c-is-gone-my-dick-t12253-80.html


It does not give me more information on the gassing of cats en masse to make fertilizers in our country ... Image

Do you have links on this activity in France?
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by Leo Maximus » 08/01/19, 21:37

nico239 wrote:It does not give me more information on the gassing of cats en masse to make fertilizers in our country ...
Do you have links on this activity in France?

Fertilizers are not mass produced by gassing cats. : Lol:

I'm talking about cats ABANDONED. Abandoned cats are first found in shelters where they stay there for a while. Those who have not been adopted are euthanized. Since we do not have the means to afford the luxury of a veterinarian officiating by injection, we proceed by mass gassing. The cats are first of all thrown in a burlap bag (like the potato bags), the bag is closed with a tie and placed in a metal box. We close the watertight door and open the gas (carbon monoxide in the Air Liquide bottle). After a few minutes, it's over.
It's economical. Corpses then become a raw material for the industry, like all animal corpses.
In my department, the operators are "reliable" people from the Federation of Hunters. They are appointed by the prefect. One of them is a relative, he gasses about fifty cats a week. He does a useful job and I don't have to give out his contact details because I don't want to harm him. We may proceed differently in the other departments.
We'd better go after those who abandon their animals.
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by Leo Maximus » 08/01/19, 21:57

A link but it's in Canada:

http://acracq.com/ChambreAGaz.html

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We do the same in France. The difference is in the level of hypocrisy. With us, we act as if it didn't exist…
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 08/01/19, 21:57

Leo Maximus wrote:
nico239 wrote:It does not give me more information on the gassing of cats en masse to make fertilizers in our country ...
Do you have links on this activity in France?

Fertilizers are not mass produced by gassing cats. : Lol:

I'm talking about cats ABANDONED. Abandoned cats are first found in shelters where they stay there for a while. Those who have not been adopted are euthanized. Since we do not have the means to afford the luxury of a veterinarian officiating by injection, we proceed by mass gassing. The cats are first of all thrown in a burlap bag (like the potato bags), the bag is closed with a tie and placed in a metal box. We close the watertight door and open the gas (carbon monoxide in the Air Liquide bottle). After a few minutes, it's over.
It's economical. Corpses then become a raw material for the industry, like all animal corpses.
In my department, the operators are "reliable" people from the Federation of Hunters. They are appointed by the prefect. One of them is a relative, he gasses about fifty cats a week. He does a useful job and I don't have to give out his contact details because I don't want to harm him. We may proceed differently in the other departments.
We'd better go after those who abandon their animals.


Image abandoned or not it is not what intrigues me and I ask even less its coordinates.

It's just that Ms. having worked for years in several veto offices, having taken care of cat shelters and being in contact with various and varied shelters, with the LPO, we have never heard in France of gassings of cats abandoned and alive in these proportions.

50 cats a week does it all the same: go around the shelters of the department, km, a pickup truck, transport, costs and necessarily full of people from the shelters who would be aware and who would never say anything about the subject

As I also know well the guys from the federate hunting of the corner I will touch them a word during the next pancake ...

I have the right to be surprised by such serious and despicable facts against which I rebel just as much as you think you are.

I will carry out my investigation and if you can bring testimonies or videos or articles like water to the mill of this investigation it is GLADLY Image
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 08/01/19, 21:59

Leo Maximus wrote:A link but it's in Canada:

http://acracq.com/ChambreAGaz.html

Gas chamber for animals.jpg
We do the same in France. The difference is in the level of hypocrisy. With us, we act as if it didn't exist…


Yes I know that it exists but in France and in the proportions that you describe it leaves me perplexed ... and even more determined to discover it ... : Evil: :!: : Evil: :!:
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