Cuba, an island in 80% in organic fruit and vegetable production.

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by dede2002 » 06/02/17, 10:05

Hi Janic,

My shy comparison was limited to social behavior, not to biting : Wink:
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by dede2002 » 06/02/17, 10:15

Ahmed wrote:I didn't know you had such big canines! : Lol:
I would not speak of a chef, but rather of a fetish (to which chefs are subject, dixit Marx: "Dominants are dominated by their own domination".


Reading this quote, can we think that the local fetish was rice, since only rice could dominate the king (even if he said he would rise to his height)?

Andrianampoinimerina (1786-1810)
The History of Kings

"... The reason why I built the
dikes is to allow me to support my
people ... The wars are now over and this
that I still have to do is to satiate your women and
your children ... ".

"I will share the earth, I will give a rice field to
every man I will make sure everyone has the
same belly, because they are all my subjects, the little ones
like the grown-ups; I will divide the earth into rice fields
to allow you to serve me; ... these rice fields that
I give you, both free subjects and slaves,
it is to ensure your subsistence; it's for y
be buried when you die. "

“Rice and I are equal; there is nobody
who is my equal, but rice is. ".
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by Ahmed » 07/02/17, 11:17

It would be necessary to know precisely the cultural context of this text to attribute or not the status of fetish to rice. As you know, fetishism consists in projecting a social construction in an external sphere from which the fetish influences the behavior of the community. Here, without further details, it is just possible to see that power is associated with a very strong symbol.

According to information that I have just received, a price increase of about 30% in Madagascar makes the situation increasingly difficult for all of those, and many of them, who are in poverty. This shows that the orientation towards food self-sufficiency is essential and that "economic development", meanwhile, remains a very speculative option ...
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by dede2002 » 08/02/17, 14:21

Hello :) ,

I don't know if the rice is in an external sphere, but I do think that it influences the behavior of the community that lives on it.
It is always cooked with pure water, so as not to dirty it, even the salt is added afterwards.

Your information is correct, the retail price of rice in the capital is about 5 times the "market" price of rice. (1 § / kg against 0,2 § / kg)

In this period of drought, we are witnessing a rush of small carriers to the port of Tamatave, which is logical because it is the largest road axis * of the country, between the capital and the port.
The rest of the country is as landlocked, it's a shame, but it's easier to get rice at the port, than in the producing countryside ...
In fact, the import (of subsidized industrial rice) does not exceed, year after year, 5 to 10% of consumption. (4 billion tonnes produced and 100 to 300 thousand tonnes imported)

* A highway is planned!
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by Did67 » 08/02/17, 14:31

Ahmed wrote:Did, what exactly do you mean by this remark:
Today, robots have to be taxed!
:?:


I had skipped this topic.

I no longer know where I wrote this and in what context!

My reasoning of boeotian had to be:

- I dream of the day when man no longer needs to work, and in particular with regard to mechanical, repetitive work ...

- far from seeing a problem, I see a solution ...

- but indeed, our social systems (education, health, homes for dependent, disabled, etc. etc) [and a few others - defenses, security, etc ...] are all funded from income taxation (CSG, CRDS) or from contributions ...

- therefore "suppressing" the "stupid" work would be a big step forward, but raises the question of the financing of these pooled activities ... [I am not talking about "individual leisure"]; As long as we do not "decouple", the political debate around this subject will be corrupted between supporters of work sharing (follow my gaze) and supporter of an ultra-liberalism favorable to an optimization of profits by this "means". ..

Hence this somewhat stupid remark, which I made I no longer know where ...
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by Ahmed » 08/02/17, 16:01

This debate took place without you, because others answered for you! 8)
- far from seeing a problem, I see a solution ...

Except that this solution is not deployed to solve this problem (stupid and repetitive work).
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by Did67 » 08/02/17, 16:10

Of course !!

As knowledge is not mobilized, by the "system" (I don't like that word, but no need to elaborate on it), to produce renewable energies or to garden lazy without pesticides or for many other things. As examples.

The "system" has an interest in what we work to consume and that we consume to work (because it is bijective!).

So it is a "possible solution" that should be read.
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by Did67 » 08/02/17, 16:13

Did67 wrote:
and in particular with regard to mechanical, repetitive work ...



Of course, with my phobia, in the hospital, I prefer that it is a nurse who stings me, rather than a very sophisticated robot (which, technically, would possibly do it better!).

Again, as an example ...

So we can dream of a world where I teach nurses how to produce vegetables without getting tired and that in return, they teach me to no longer be afraid of piquouses!

I wrote "dream"! ...
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by Ahmed » 08/02/17, 16:16

No need to correct, I understood the meaning that was clear: you wrote "I see a solution" and not "it is the solution".
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by Janic » 09/02/17, 08:21

that in return, they teach me to no longer be afraid of piquouses!
or better yet, no longer need spikes!
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