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Re: 4 per thousand, storing carbon in global soils




by izentrop » 26/01/21, 14:39

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:If you want to fix carbon ad vitam æternam
As always, epidermal reaction without having taken the trouble to read and listen to what was said ... : roll:
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 26/01/21, 14:53

izentrop wrote:
GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:If you want to fix carbon ad vitam æternam
As always, epidermal reaction without having taken the trouble to read and listen to what was said ... : roll:

What epidermal reaction ??? I give a lead. Are you paranoid or what? Molluscs transform Co2 into calcium carbonate (limestone) ... LAMENTABLE ... : Mrgreen:
You just have to see what it has given over millions of years ... mountains, massifs, islands, etc ... It's not a good track, maybe? Go drink some glyphosate, it'll refocus you.
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by Christophe » 26/01/21, 14:57

+1 with Guy ...

Then it's good dla mussel as long as it is fresh !! : Mrgreen:
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by izentrop » 26/01/21, 15:06

Continue to answer next ... : roll:
We are talking about the soil, not the oceans and whether it is Boivin or Dominique Arrouays, no one is talking about "to fix carbon ad vitam æternam"It is only said that since the 50s, the stock of organic matter has steadily declined in agricultural soils worldwide and that since we understand the mechanisms, the practice of cover and the abandonment of deep plowing (between others) again allow substantial storage, until a normal OM content is reached depending on the clay content.

At least listen to what he says from here:
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by Christophe » 26/01/21, 15:12

What exactly is the problem? One solution would prevent the other? Considering the urgency as much to act on the 2 fields no?

Right now Musk wants to give $ 100M to whoever finds the best solution for CO2 capture ... is that what you are fighting for? : Mrgreen:
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by izentrop » 26/01/21, 15:28

Christophe wrote:Considering the urgency as much to act on the 2 fields no?
It's dead https://www.sauvonsleclimat.org/images/ ... %20mer.pdf
Since the start of the industrial era, the pH of ocean surface waters has been estimated to have
decreased by at least 0,1 unit, a decrease that could reach 0,3 to 0,4 pH units by the end
of the XXIst century if CO2 emissions by humans continue according to the current trend.
At the same time, the amount of dissolved CO2 will continue to increase. But this increase in
concentration of dissolved carbon dioxide will decrease the concentration of carbonate ions
CO3
2- for the benefit of hydrogen carbonate ions HCO3
-
by reaction: CO2 + CO3
2- + H20 ⇔ 2 HCO3
-
.
This decrease in carbonate ions will lead to the dissolution of limestone: in the presence of water, it
a balance is established between the solid limestone CaCO3 and the ions Ca2 + and CO3
2- in solution in water
CaCO3 ⇔ Ca2 + + CO3
2-
The equilibrium condition is that the product of the concentrations of Ca2 + ions and CO3 ions
2- rest
constant. In other words, if the concentration of carbonate ions decreases, the concentration of ions
Ca2 + has to grow, and this is obviously done by dissolving some of the solid calcium carbonate.
When the equilibrium between solid calcium carbonate and ions in solution is achieved, we say that
seawater is saturated with calcium carbonate. Decrease in ion concentration
carbonates will cause desaturation and therefore give the water a dissolving power of
calcium carbonate. The 2 crystal forms do not have exactly the same equilibrium constants
with water, aragonite will be attacked by water earlier than calcite when decreasing the
concentration of carbonate ions. Aragonite becomes soluble when the ion concentration
carbonates drops below 66 micromoles per kg.
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 26/01/21, 15:52

izentrop wrote:
Christophe wrote:Considering the urgency as much to act on the 2 fields no?
It's dead

Thank you to the world's largest specialist in Co2 storage for this detailed analysis. Sorry but NO, it's not dead yet, and luckily because we all would be.
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by Christophe » 26/01/21, 17:20

Absolutely..Izy on my way to the 5th dimension?

If it was dead you would eat more mussels for a while (what have you eaten more for 30 years ??? : Mrgreen: ) ah but maybe you prefer cod? : Mrgreen:
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by Moindreffor » 26/01/21, 19:17

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:I give a lead. Are you paranoid or what? Molluscs transform Co2 into calcium carbonate (limestone) ...
You just have to see what it has given over millions of years... mountains, massifs, islands, etc ...

this is precisely why your idea, based on a reality is a false good idea, since we no longer have millions of years in front of us
between there is urgency and over millions of years there is like an incongruity : Mrgreen:

if not, let's make humor for once
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 26/01/21, 19:26

Moindreffor wrote:
GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:I give a lead. Are you paranoid or what? Molluscs transform Co2 into calcium carbonate (limestone) ...
You just have to see what it has given over millions of years... mountains, massifs, islands, etc ...

this is precisely why your idea, based on a reality is a false good idea, since we no longer have millions of years in front of us
between there is urgency and over millions of years there is like an incongruity : Mrgreen:

Uh ... have you seen the billions of tons of limestone spread across the globe ??? The mountain ranges, the islands? Look at the weight of an oyster and conclude what you like. I still believe this is a good solution.
Phytoplankton alone captures more than half of the terrestrial CO2!
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