Sawdust Paper Log Press Project

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Re: Sawdust Paper Log Press Project




by Christophe » 20/01/23, 13:31

Ok thank you and chemically what does that mean? What does this chemical reaction produce?
Can we hope to have more calories with fermented grinds (hydrogenation) or is it the opposite (loss of carbon...)?

It's true that some crazy people drink wood alcohol... When is Leclerc prospectus alcohol? : Lol:
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by gegyx » 20/01/23, 13:40

: Cheesy: they said they would stop flyers in clubs in 2023...
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by Christophe » 20/01/23, 13:42

Damn, I got screwed again!!! : Lol: : Lol: : Lol:

Well it will be alcohol from But and Ikea then! Health !!
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by Ahmed » 20/01/23, 19:25

Without certainty, I would say that anaerobic fermentation causes carbon consumption, like its aerobic counterpart... Can anyone decide?
In any case, the loss remains negligible on a limited time scale.
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by sicetaitsimple » 20/01/23, 19:38

Ahmed wrote:Without certainty, I would say that anaerobic fermentation causes carbon consumption, like its aerobic counterpart... Can anyone decide?
In any case, the loss remains negligible on a limited time scale.


Slice maybe not, but I think so, it's "yum yum carbon". Furthermore, I do not think that this fermentation is anaerobic, there is enough oxygen available in a shallow liquid capacity exposed to the ambient air, especially if it is regularly stirred.
But yes, the loss is certainly minimal.
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by Ahmed » 20/01/23, 19:46

It is true that there is some exposure to air, especially that dissolved in water, because the surface remains small compared to the height of the mixture (and therefore its volume, obviously). The mixture is done at the incorporation, then everything remains very quiet until the grinding / pulping which immediately precedes the pressing.
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by Christophe » 25/01/23, 09:59

More grinds and more mixes (the sink is always full... : Mrgreen: ) the more I tell myself that there is certainly a way to optimize the energy of this whole construction site...

And the methanization of cardboard paper?

There is no cellulose on these data: energies-renewable / biogas-methanization-and-power-methanogenic-t2338.html but 1500 to 2000 kWh / ton of raw material (% humidity?)... seems realistic to me (if you have the exact value?)...

With 2000 kWh / T we would therefore have a PCI equivalent to the kg of paper of 2000 * 3. 6 MJ / 1000 = 7200 kJ / kg...

To be compared to the PCI of paper / cardboard in direct combustion: approximately 14 kJ / "dry" kg...ok it's dead! Source : https://www.recy.net/modules/INC/INC05-01-04.php

So much the better to methanize it's a mess to manage!
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Re: Sawdust Paper Log Press Project




by sicetaitsimple » 04/02/23, 21:02

Pfff.... And Ahmed who makes us a whole movie...
While the recipe is readily available on the Internet:
https://www.neozone.org/astuces/linvent ... la-sciure/
Be careful though, see the last sentence:
Let each log dry for at least 24 hours before burning them.
Well, 24 hours is still reasonable.....
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by Ahmed » 04/02/23, 21:26

It's really big nonsense... : roll: Thank you for finding this gem! :P
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Re: Sawdust Paper Log Press Project




by Christophe » 05/02/23, 01:13

sicetaitsimple wrote:Pfff.... And Ahmed who makes us a whole movie...
While the recipe is readily available on the Internet:
https://www.neozone.org/astuces/linvent ... la-sciure/
Be careful though, see the last sentence:
Let each log dry for at least 24 hours before burning them.
Well, 24 hours is still reasonable.....


24h…that's to heat negative! : Mrgreen:

Neozone the putaclic from amazon…I have rarely read so much bullshit concentrated in an article…highly publicity…

Well otherwise I finished my production a few days ago: 50 to 60 logs...

The bottom of my prospectus reserve still went back to 2016 with some stuff from 2014 even : Shock: : Cheesy:

Not seen in 2015 though... :?: : Shock:
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