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by caracole » 06/01/12, 16:20

It's in the USA, thousands of abandoned wind turbines, rotting ...
In 1978, the wind turbine industry was in its infancy, the lack of competition and skill caused the installation of machines of which we quickly discovered all the faults: poor performance and questionable reliability.
With completely piped business plans, the wind is only available less than 40% of the time!
We are then in 1992, and all seems lost for these thousands of wind turbines, which squat the windiest places, and already equipped with an electric network.
So come Enron http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron ! A clever mix of clever crooks and incompetent officials, to impose a deregulation of the supply of energy. Fewer constraints, amortization over five years, purchase price guaranteed by the states: with wind turbines, we can once again build staggering balance sheets, find investors and be allocated authorizations.
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In 1992, it started again! corpses wake up ... on paper. Enron buys these "farms" and speculation is racing. Four years later, we do the accounts: all this was phony, wind turbines were even dismantled and replaced elsewhere to create the illusion ... of real Madoff http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madoff !
Investors lost everything, but the environment kept the corpses, because no provision had been made for their dismantling.
Exciting isn't it? to find out more:
http://toryaardvark.com/2011/11/17/14000-abandoned-wind-turbines-in-the-usa/
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by dedeleco » 06/01/12, 17:43

It's almost nothing, US idiocy bankrupt, a few hours of cranes and dismantling trucks, that nobody wants to pay, and nothing next to our inoperable radioactive dead nuclear power plants without paying more than for their construction !!
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by chatelot16 » 06/01/12, 18:08

it would interest me well ... even if it is not profitable for I do not know what design error it must be more profitable to modify them than to rebuild everything from scratch

but they are too far away for me to go find one
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by Did67 » 06/01/12, 18:19

They may not be profitable at their purchase value, new.

They may be at the price of scrap metal! Must see who owns today, who sells them, how much ???

What surprises me is that nobody buys them in the USA to run them there.

Suppose they are sold out today, they would be in the states, right?

Or conversely, if it is possible to repatriate them to France, it would not be easier to re-install them there, that would mean less transport. Well, I don't know the price in the USA ...

So there is probably a problem. Perhaps simply a legal problem of liquidation / bankruptcy?

In short, to see. Maybe not so simple anyway!
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by Former Oceano » 06/01/12, 21:25

They have not been maintained. The axes, bearings and bearings may be oxidized, dead and the parts must be found.
The electronics must be old, the yields less good than those of today.
So economically it may not be a good deal.
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by elephant » 06/01/12, 22:42

It's probably 60 Hz.

Okay, the scrap is expensive, but so is the giant crane hour and the guys who go with it. As well as the transport of giant blades and pylon elements ...

And if in addition, it is necessary to rehabilitate the site: what do we do with the concrete block of the base?
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by chatelot16 » 06/01/12, 23:07

I have the impression that these wind turbines are too tight

the study was made by measuring the wind when it was very flat

when they have mounted all these wind turbines the variation of the wind with the height has completely changed, you would have to climb higher than before to have the same wind

not worth increasing the height of all wind turbines because it will not end
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by caracole » 07/01/12, 00:18

Scrap is expensive and copper above all!
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by dedeleco » 07/01/12, 01:57

worse with the solar USA country in real bankruptcy, government and population, with this site which rejoices in all the woes of renewable energy:
Wind Power Join Solar Power In Death Spiral
http://toryaardvark.com/2012/01/05/wind ... th-spiral/
German Wind Farm Fiasco
http://toryaardvark.com/2012/01/03/germ ... rm-fiasco/

Christopher Columbus has cooled the planet !!
Christopher Columbus Caused The Little Ice Age
http://toryaardvark.com/2012/01/01/chri ... e-ice-age/

US Greens Report Lies About Shale Gas
http://toryaardvark.com/2012/01/05/us-g ... shale-gas/
Fracking there has created 100,000 jobs
On this site, shale gas is very clean and will save America, with lots of jobs !!!!

Natural gas is ... it is the future. !!!

A beautiful oil and gas site and for nuclear power, which has a very beautiful death spiral by radioactivating an entire region emptied of all its inhabitants for centuries !!
But not a word of that on this site !!
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by phil53 » 07/01/12, 11:08

To recover these wind turbines, I think you have to be pragmatic and have a capital to risk to make a preliminary study.
First, it seems logical that the best profitability would be to operate what can be locally.
This assumption made, that does not prevent from considering other hypotheses. But you shouldn't scatter your resources either.

So first and foremost make an action plan and select only the most promising solution.

Let's assume that we can recover on the spot.
You have to study the winds
To do the inventory
etc ........
Proceed in stages.
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