Tetrabric or HDPE bottled milk?

[dreamer]

BOnjjour,
Following the viewing of "C in the air" yesterday, I asked myself a question which may seem bizarre but in my search for always to do better, I ask it:

What is better to use? The tetrabies that are more convenient to store and which take less depalle in the blue bag (recycling PMC) but contain aluminum (and probably other stuff) or plastic bottles but without aluminum (except the tongue ) and of one and the same matter (I suppose?)?

Merciii,
Dreamer

[the middle]

BOnjjour,
Following the viewing of "C in the air" yesterday, I asked myself a question which may seem bizarre but in my search for always to do better, I ask it:

What is better to use? The tetrabies that are more convenient to store and which take less depalle in the blue bag (recycling PMC) but contain aluminum (and probably other stuff) or plastic bottles but without aluminum (except the tongue ) and of one and the same matter (I suppose?)?

Merciii,
Dreamer

Good question.
My livelihood is to control a part of the production of PE
Production: + - 20 tons per hour.
To make this plastic, it takes a lot of energies of all kinds.
The first answer without thinking is the recyclable glass bottle. But it's heavy for grandpa, and mamy.
My second answer, with reflection, is the bottle of PE recorded, and at that moment, I will go to unemployment soon ...
Because there is a way to make good PE that resists well in time.
So, I do not exactly answer your question.
For me, it is the governments that must take action ....
If we want to limit the current ecological disaster, we must take drastic unpopular measures.
So, in the end, I will say that we have to go through politics to solve this question.

[dreamer]

I agree with you on the measures that need to be taken and I do not mind at all, that the contrary.

But I would like in mm tps be sure of what I do already: p

In this case,
Dreamer

[I Citro]

I fully agree acex lejustemilieu (excellent nickname).

The best solution seems to me too THE GLASS that I try to fill with raw milk directly on the farm (there is one on the work journey of my wife). Economically it is cheaper than raw milk already packaged and even as UHT milk.
Especially my stomach digests very well raw milk that I find delicious , while UHT milk gives me horrible upset stomach.

It is therefore necessary to choose between the consumer society and its polluting growth or a reasoned and sustainable decline ...
But economically, the consumer finds himself with an active approach ...

[Rabbit]

For economic and taste reasons I resolved the
question by following the same path as Citro. So I bought
a milk jug of 40L. and every month I go to the farm
look for my + -35l milk.It must choose the farm because
some farms have a creamier milk .It's the
milk that I'm looking for.

Once in, I pour the milk from a honey maturator with filter.
Then I filled plastic buckets of chocolate paste to spread.
They make 2 liters quickly say.
Once all the pots are full, I put everything in the freezer.
to thaw it just take out a bucket and put it in a saucepan
filled with water. In the morning the milk is ice-cream but thawing.

It comes back to 16 € / 40L, no unnecessary packaging and the truth
milk at breakfast.

[the middle]

For economic and taste reasons I resolved the
question by following the same path as Citro. So I bought
a milk jug of 40L. and every month I go to the farm
look for my + -35l milk.It must choose the farm because
some farms have a creamier milk .It's the
milk that I'm looking for.

Once in, I pour the milk from a honey maturator with filter.
Then I filled plastic buckets of chocolate paste to spread.
They make 2 liters quickly say.
Once all the pots are full, I put everything in the freezer.
to thaw it just take out a bucket and put it in a saucepan
filled with water. In the morning the milk is ice-cream but thawing.
************************************************** **
Incredible but true, I NEVER GODED MILK NATURE ... I'm going to take action

It comes back to 16 € / 40L, no unnecessary packaging and the truth
milk at breakfast.

[Rabbit]

Oops, I'm wrong.
Instead of reading:

It's the
milk that I'm looking for.

You must read:

It's the
creamy milk I'm looking for.

It seems to me that the milk that is currently produced is less
rich in cream than in the past. At my parents' house we had
a good layer of cream.Now this is more than 1 or 2
mm.

[I Citro]

It comes back to 16 € / 40L, no unnecessary packaging and the truth
milk at breakfast.

I did not understand everything (the honey maturer, the filter ...)
The spreading dough pots ... do you find that or?

Otherwise, for the cream content, you're right ... Europe decided that Europeans needed high-protein milk ... Traditionally, the milk produced in France with good grass was rich in fat.
So we put our milk cows on a diet ... by giving them cakes of ... Soy! Sometimes sunflower or other ... when it is not corn ensiled!
The milk loses in (delicious) fat what it gains in proteins (not very ecological) and in smells and tastes (which I do not appreciate).

Month are due to the fact that I find it scandalous to import cow food and feed them with maize (transgenic?) big consumer of UAE, and inputs ... While they can feed themselves from good grass ...

I come from Grand Bornand (in the Alps) and even there some import hay to feed the cows of plenty (it is the breed) that produce the milk used to make Reblochon (I love).

[Rabbit]

I did not understand everything (the honey maturer, the filter ...)
The spreading dough pots ... do you find that or?

Having had bees, I have a honey maturer with filter.
The honey maturation is a stainless steel tank of + -30l equipped with a
valve from below.
The filter serves to remove some small and improbable miseries that
would have fallen off the milk during filling of the milk jug.
Must say that it is the farmer who filled the jug, and once
did not see the bucket (the same as to feed the calves ) Et les
means implemented.T is on that side immunity is shielded if
ty survival I am not sure that the EEC would like that.
On the other hand I prefer a herbal tea with cow hair that
markers, preservatives and other additives uses .More I
note that we have no more colds and other miseries of
health since we are fueling the milk of real cows.

N prevents, I still prefer to filter a shot, history
not to tempt the devil.
In the case of hazelnut spread jars, these are
children who empty them.This is pots of 2 kg, brand
Econom, cheaper than nutela.Once empty just pass them
Dishwashers.
I tried the bags of plastic soda time to have enough pots.
In theory it works very well, in practice, the bags are not
not easy to stack in the freezer and the welds loose under
the pressure if we stack several. Bad luck when it happens.
In addition, once frozen, the bags are glued together.
separate with the ax when you need one.
plastics food with lid are still more convenient.

[Christophe]

Uh normally the plastic milk bottle are in HDPE (usually white).

The tetrapack like the HDPE bottles are sorted rigorously in the Belgian container parks and are therefore, a priori (hopefully) both recyclable one than the other.

The problem with tetrapack comes from the fact that they are "composite" materials so very delicate and expensive to recycle (separation of materials) in any case Tetra Packs are not yet 100% recyclable unlike HDPE.



More information here:

Recycling of Tetra Pack packaging
A visit to the container park: selective sorting in practice in Belgium