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by Woodcutter » 09/08/08, 15:27

Hasardine wrote:[...] for dry toilets, are you certain of the toxicity of the inks of our daily newspapers? [...]
"Real newspapers", therefore made with newsprint, have not contained dangerous ink (heavy metals) for quite a long time (vegetable inks now), which, it seems to me, is not the case at all with printed matter. and glossy magazines.
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by Ahmed » 10/08/08, 16:18

It's a good thing, it's true that my news dated a bit.

Hasardineif it is not indiscreet, do TS represent a chore for you because of raw material supply and / or for other reasons?

If this system weighs you down, what were the reasons for your decision?
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by Christophe » 10/08/08, 16:26

Woodcutter wrote:"Real newspapers", therefore made with newsprint, have not contained dangerous ink (heavy metals) for quite a long time (vegetable inks now), which, it seems to me, is not the case at all with printed matter. and glossy magazines.


I do not know what you do not hear long but here is my experience of 2 months of summer job.

En 1998, the printer still used inks whose solvent was toluene, it is certainly only the solvent (so a priori not necessarily present in the ink) but it is a beautiful cochonerie.

We made 60% advertising for large areas to give you the quality of paper ...

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tolu%C3%A8ne

The heliography roll was cleaned without any protection except gloves.

Long-term chronic inhalation of toluene causes irreversible brain damage.


It was 10 years ago, I think it has changed since then (I had a proposal for the End of Study Project in the company in question to change this to 2001)
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by the middle » 10/08/08, 17:15

In 1998, the printer still used inks whose solvent was toluene, it is certainly only the solvent (so a priori not necessarily present in the ink) but it is a beautiful cochonerie.

:? I washed my arms with this crap for years, it cleaned well. I was full of sticky oil ...; I wonder how I'm still alive ... (I still smell in my nose) Image
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by Woodcutter » 10/08/08, 22:21

Christophe wrote:[...]In 1998, the printer still used inks whose solvent was toluene, it is certainly only the solvent (so a priori not necessarily present in the ink) but it is a beautiful cochonerie.

We made 60% advertising for large areas to give you the quality of paper ... [...]
I'm not a specialist in printing, but what I've been told is that on newsprint, it's not the same thing as on glossy paper (so on ads) ...
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by Hasardine » 21/08/08, 20:52

sorry I had deserted this post, so here is:

Ahmed wrote:
Hasardineif it is not indiscreet, do TS represent a chore for you because of raw material supply and / or for other reasons?

If this system weighs you down, what were the reasons for your decision?


Indeed, this chore became painful, but my decision flowed from source.

I am a maternal assistant at my home and I transformed the basement into a nursery: a game room, an office and a change point, but now there was no toilet, being rented, I could not not installing a toilet by making a connection on the pipe, I had 2 solutions left: the sanitizer or the dry toilets, it seemed obvious to me that the dry toilets were the most ecological solution!

Here, however, if in the fall, I was able to make them work, we quickly noticed a first concern: the size of our compost, which was limited to 300L (with 10 to 20l of waste per day, and a not famous waste "settlement" speed, it was quickly filled!). The second problem, as I said above (not solved to date!) The nature of the dry matter and the supply of it, indeed we do not have dead leaves all year round!

here is hoping to have answered your question.


As for the dailies, gentlemen, I am delighted with the news you bring me here!

Indeed, I am relieved because I only use that!

and again thank you for advising me!

in fact, direct recycling issue, our dry toilets (the object) are made entirely from objects of recovery: a telescope (normal, must sit well!) a bucket of metal of big capacity (which was used to recover the ashes at the granny) a board of 60x240cm some screws that dragged to the cellar and 2 hinges

I'll put you a picture, if it interests someone!
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by gegyx » 21/08/08, 22:44

:?:
I will ask the questions we do not ask.
: Shock:

And if a child falls in the hole?

For the ambient smell, what is it?

Do you use toilet paper, water wash, or both?

(Using a lot of toilet paper, no need for dry matter, dead leaves or cut logs. : Cheesy: )

The heap of compost, it is interesting to be far enough, right?

Trundling the heavy bucket, emptying it of sticky materials, washing it without splashing too much, must be painful. Do not make drops by reintroducing it into your manger ...

Stirring this pile of compost from time to time, just to remember the meals of the month, must also be exciting ...

And then an old question that I had asked in a joke:
with dry toilets, does one wash one's hands afterwards, even if it stupidly spends water?
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by Christine » 21/08/08, 22:53

I will let Hasardine answer, but I will re-point out the book "a little corner to relieve the planet" by Christophe Élain which is essential for all those who ask themselves "the questions that we do not ask".

And if you want to develop the subject, we can create a new subject "dry toilets" (the others are a bit dated).
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by Hasardine » 22/08/08, 00:11

well, we will go gradually:

* my kids are no more stupid than others and make sure not to fall into the hole, besides, they know where it's going, there is not the tromatis side that some children meet (they have the feeling of losing some something that belongs to them and after hunting have the impression of having lost it forever)

* the smell, there is no more than in a normal toilet, when you put your dry matter on your excrement, (even the urine which smells strong) the odors are "absorbed" or "smothered" as you want, but in any case we are not inconvenienced by our toilets.

* For the PQ, we use it like everyone else, neither more nor less, and we do not spoil it! (it's not the style of the house)

* for the cleaning of the bucket, 2 things comes into account: first, I use biodegradable bags, then you put in the bottom of your bag, a first layer of dry matter (kind old newspapers) that will absorb the urine and prevent the first droppings from getting stuck in your bucket!

* Suddenly the washing of the bucket is done very simply with water from the recuperator and organic products (of course!)

* For the situation of the pile of compost, it is indeed in the bottom of the garden and ideally located next to that of the neighbor !!! so she can not blame me for having installed one!

* For the weight of the bucket, this is not where the chore is, it does not have a volume greater than 10l (it is never filled completely and the dry matter taking up a lot of space, it is not far not the weight of a water pack!

* For the compost, believe me that human defections are no more disgusting than those of animals, and when you are a person from the countryside (my grandparents who raised me were farmers !!! I believe that contact with the earth and the animals it does not invent, I must have it in the blood, that's all!)

When it comes to hand washing, of course, you have to use water, but you do not let it run while you soap it, do you?

Thank you Christine for the reminder!
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by Hasardine » 22/08/08, 09:45

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