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The car, its movements, its age, etc.




by phil59 » 30/04/23, 01:33

Beginning, I will complete all this over several times, no doubt.

Approach, distribution of car trips.

https://www.observationsociete.fr/modes-de-vie/divers-tendances_conditions/longue-distance-comment-voyagent-les-francais/

The French make six trips of more than 80 km per year on average, according to 2019 data from the Ministry of Transport, which includes travel for personal and professional reasons. They spend 28 nights per year away from home, ie a total of 34 travel days per year and 7 km traveled per person per year.
Most often, the French do not escape to the other side of the world. Half of the trips are between 80 and 200 km, 30% between 200 and 500 km et 20% over 500 km. Most of them (more than 85%) go to France and three quarters of those who go abroad stay in Europe. In total, only 3% of trips are made outside the continent. The car is the irreplaceable travel tool. It represents a little less than three-quarters, compared to 14% for the train, a little less than 10% for the plane and 2,5% for the bus.


So according to these sources, for the 6 trips above 80 km,50% of journeys are 80 to 200 km.
30% from 200 to 500 km
20% above 500 km.


Approach Detention by household of vehicles

https://www.onisr.securite-routiere.gouv.fr/sites/default/files/2022-09/74-75%20Le%20parc%20automobile%20des%20m%C3%A9nages%20V5.pdf

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Approach Age range of cars

https://www.largus.fr/actualite-automobile/parc-automobile-2022-les-voitures-de-plus-de-15-ans-n-ont-jamais-ete-aussi-nombreuses-30023665.html

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Even if the average age of the vehicles is close to 10 years, 3/4 are less than 15 years old.

I will say that all these figures, even if we can dispute them, are representative, and are very close to reality.

That's my first post, but it's not over...
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by Christophe » 30/04/23, 10:42

Very good summary, I can't wait to see the rest!

a) I thought that the average km was higher, but if we take into account damaged vehicles with low km, it is normal: to compensate for 1 damaged car and replaced by a new one and to have an average of 110 km, must have a car with 000 km...

How many vehicles are destroyed per accident in France?

b) Another good statistic would be the average km of scrapping (by wear or accident...if you have both, it's even better)...

c) For the record, I came across a Renault 4 a few years ago (not the 4L, the Renault 4 from the 60s)...it was in semi wreckage (not damaged) and had. ..55 km on the clock! Which means that we drove a lot, a lot, less at the time...
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by Macro » 01/05/23, 08:49

Christophe wrote:
c) For the record, I came across a Renault 4 a few years ago (not the 4L, the Renault 4 from the 60s)...it was in semi wreckage (not damaged) and had. ..55 km on the clock! Which means that we drove a lot, a lot, less at the time...


The speedometer may have had a turn. The 6-digit speedometers only arrived in the 80s... And indeed a vehicle from the 60s when it reached 100 km it was already very beautiful... the citroen HY by example required an engine oil change every 000km : Cheesy: : Cheesy: : Cheesy:
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by Janic » 01/05/23, 09:08

The speedometer may have had a turn. The 6-digit speedometers only arrived in the 80s... And indeed a vehicle from the 60s when it reached 100 km it was already very beautiful... the citroen HY by example required an engine oil change every 000km
those were the good times before! On my 4CV I had to add 2 liters of oil every 200 km. It was still the good time when a handyman in mechanics could intervene on a vehicle without electronics.
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by Christophe » 01/05/23, 09:45

Macro wrote:
Christophe wrote:
c) For the record, I came across a Renault 4 a few years ago (not the 4L, the Renault 4 from the 60s)...it was in semi wreckage (not damaged) and had. ..55 km on the clock! Which means that we drove a lot, a lot, less at the time...


The speedometer may have had a turn. The 6-digit speedometers only arrived in the 80s... And indeed a vehicle from the 60s when it reached 100 km it was already very beautiful... the citroen HY by example required an engine oil change every 000km : Cheesy: : Cheesy: : Cheesy:


Ah yes it is quite possible!

Otherwise my parents were quite proud of their Renault 4L (the first car I remember) which had been around the world more than 3 times, in the end, I think they abandoned it around 150 km...
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 01/05/23, 12:16

Janic wrote: On my 4CV I had to add 2 liters of oil every 200 km.

Yeah well your engine was flushed... it was not normal. Or you wanted to write "every 2000 km".
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by Janic » 01/05/23, 12:42

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On my 4CV I had to add 2 liters of oil every 200 km.
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Yeah well your engine was flushed... it was not normal. Or you wanted to write "every 2000 km".
of course it was rinsed, the counter had probably already done a turn. I took it apart, changed the segments and it was back to normal after a few km.
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by Janic » 02/05/23, 09:18

clean car? One more illusion!
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by phil59 » 06/05/23, 13:38

No time to complete the study now, I'm on fuel prices and consumption, for the first time.

Not yet collate good information that is roughly verified, cross-checked.

I think we will never have 100% of the right figures, but always an estimate, more or less 10%, which is suitable for studies, in my opinion, because there are so many parameters in there...

But janic, here it is the observation of the real, of the existing, nothing more.
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by phil59 » 06/05/23, 13:39

PS, the time for conclusions is still far from over!

Except, not to move, even at worst on foot.
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