The revelation of the pyramids

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by Cuicui » 21/12/12, 20:17

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Leo Maximus wrote:The Egyptians used copper tools encrusted with corundum grains. It is as effective as our diamond tools.

Do you seriously think that the people of Easter Island used this process to build their Cyclopean walls?


The answer is simple: yes.
How would they have done otherwise ?. :)

Your certainties are admirable.
That's right, where was my head? Everyone knows that the pascuants were great metallurgists ... You just have to find the proofs.
How could they have done otherwise? Good question, indeed. Perhaps they hired master builders from ancient Egypt ...
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by Leo Maximus » 21/12/12, 20:22

Fakir wrote:
Leo Maximus wrote:Jean-Pierre Adam is right, we can find the Golden Number in all simple geometric forms. The pyramid is part of it and whatever its proportions we will find the Golden Ratio.
Well, no. From any form, it is possible to find relationships that are close to known and famous values.

The possible relationships in a pyramid are limited.
http://puzzlavie.be/news/nombre-d-or-depuis-toujours
You just have to look at what reports we are talking about to realize this

Find the golden ratio with such devilish precision no!
at 2% on the 3 pyramids (hypotenuse ratio on the side of the base)

The Egyptians clearly wanted these dimensions.

We will always find the Golden Ratio where we want to find it ...

In the video it says at 1:13 '47 "that the Louvre pyramid is the same size as the Great Pyramid of Cheops. So they are both Golden Ratio, obviously.

However, this is false, their proportions are significantly different but they are nonetheless both in the Golden Ratio, of course. : Lol:

Follows in the video the interview with the architect Pei who fled by pretending to go to the doctor, of course. : Lol:

Anything this video.
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by sen-no-sen » 21/12/12, 20:39

Cuicui wrote:Your certainties are admirable.
That's right, where was my head? Everyone knows that the pascuants were great metallurgists ... How could they have done otherwise? Good question, indeed. Perhaps they hired master builders from ancient Egypt ...


Your hypotheses are also admirable!
So do you think they brought in Egyptians?
I hope they paid them well, because the journey must have been damn long between Egypt and Easter Island! : Mrgreen:
Finally that is the spatial aspect, because the big problem remains temporal ... since they did not live at the same time ...

I do not see why the Egyptians would have been superior to other peoples, they did not have the exclusivity of architectural genius, which is a universal thing.
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by Fakir » 21/12/12, 22:12

Leo Maximus wrote:In the video it says at 1:13 '47 "that the Louvre pyramid is the same size as the Great Pyramid of Cheops. So they are both Golden Ratio, obviously.

However, this is false, their proportions are significantly different but they are nonetheless both in the Golden Ratio, of course. : Lol:

:?
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Phi or golden number 1.6180
Kheops: Height 148.2 Base 230.8 Report 1.62 -> error 0.6%
Louvre: Height 21.6 Base 35 Ratio 1.58 -> error 1.82%

Ratio Kheops / louvre 6.6 and 6.8


CQFD it's actually true


...

The advantage of mathematics is precision!
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by gegyx » 21/12/12, 22:40

: Shock:

Indeed it is convincing!

Redo your calculations already ...

Then I see other dimensions:

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramide_de_Kh%C3%A9ops

(who don't do the Φ either)

Between wear and tear, the coating gone, the pyramid missing, and the true level of the base ....
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by Leo Maximus » 21/12/12, 22:49

Yes, mathematical precision is good! : Lol:

And the Golden Ratio 1,618 (1 + root of 5) / 2 or 1,6180339887498948482045868343656 (thanks to the Windows calculator for decimals : Lol: ) is deemed to have a unique property: it is a number that has the same decimal places as its inverse: 1 / 1,6180339887498948482045868343656 = 0,6180339887498948482045868343656.

Except that this unique property is shared with an ... infinity of other numbers! : Lol:

Example with 1 + root of 2, ie: 2,4142135623730950488016887242097

The inverse of 2,414 is 1 / 2,414, i.e.: 0,4142135623730950488016887242097 : Shock: :?: : Cheesy:

You can check it on any calculator, even "Made in China"!

There are an infinite number of numbers which have this "unique" property.

I have nothing against the Golden Ratio, and I use it myself when I tinker and I need a proportion ... My living room is at the Golden Ratio. What bothers me is the bullshit they tell.
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by Cuicui » 21/12/12, 23:35

sen-no-sen wrote:Your hypotheses are also admirable!
So do you think they brought in Egyptians?

: Shock: It was humor (second degree ...)
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by Leo Maximus » 22/12/12, 10:40

Fakir wrote:
Leo Maximus wrote:Jean-Pierre Adam is right, we can find the Golden Number in all simple geometric forms. The pyramid is part of it and whatever its proportions we will find the Golden Ratio.
Well, no. From any form, it is possible to find relationships that are close to known and famous values.

The possible relationships in a pyramid are limited.
http://puzzlavie.be/news/nombre-d-or-depuis-toujours
You just have to look at what reports we are talking about to realize this

Find the golden ratio with such devilish precision no!
at 2% on the 3 pyramids (hypotenuse relationship on the side of the base)

The Egyptians clearly wanted these dimensions.

In the pyramid, I suppose that this hypothenuse is the apotheosis of a face. It goes from the top of the pyramid to the middle of the base. But, it could very well be the edge as much as we can see the edges very well while the apothems must be imagined.

If I take the apothem / side of the base ratio I have 186,60 meters / 230,35 meters or 0,81. It's not the Golden Ratio but half. So we should find the Golden Ratio in the apothem / half-base ratio and we get 1,62, that's almost it, but it's still a relationship between two lengths that we do not see, it may be the secret! : Lol:

Anyway it is the angle between the base and a face that makes the proportions of a pyramid.

By measuring the angle that the vestiges of the coating make, we can know if the apothem / half-base ratio is equal to the Golden Ratio. No ?

About the dimensions of Cheops, there is this: http://www.khufu.dk/article/dimensions-outer.htm . It sounds serious. In any case, it is well presented! : Lol:
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by sen-no-sen » 22/12/12, 11:03

Cuicui wrote:
sen-no-sen wrote:Your hypotheses are also admirable!
So do you think they brought in Egyptians?

: Shock: It was humor (second degree ...)


Mea culpa, but it seemed to me that there was irony in your words!

In this story of pyramid revelation, I would like to know where it is about to come from?
To the Atlanteans? To the land of Mu? ... to the AND :?:
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by Fakir » 22/12/12, 14:12

Leo Maximus wrote:In the pyramid, I suppose that this hypothenuse is the apotheosis of a face. It goes from the top of the pyramid to the middle of the base.
Indeed
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apoth%C3%A8me

And this is calculated very quickly with the height H and the side 2A of a pyramid which are the two generally known and easily measurable elements. It is the hypotenuse (C) of the right triangle with sides H and A that is: C² = H² + A²

Leo Maximus wrote:About the dimensions of Cheops, there is this: http://www.khufu.dk/article/dimensions-outer.htm . It sounds serious. In any case, it is well presented! : Lol:

With the proposed dimensions have found C = 186.51 and the ratio
186.51 / 115.174 = 1.619, golden ratio accurate to 0.01%

And it is obvious that the Egyptians wanted to respect these dimensions.
They are found on the 3 Pyramids of Giza
Here they are in ascending order:
H 66 136,5 146.71
A 54 105,25 115,174
For those who want to have fun I let them do the math
: Cheesy:

The only question for debate in this thread, that is why?
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