The deniers of reality, a long tradition

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The deniers of reality, a long tradition




by dedeleco » 06/04/12, 03:19

I raise the fundamental problem, the denial of realities well established by sciencethat I see affirmed, by some, almost obsessed, by this addiction, without end, and which is seen constantly throughout the history of humanity and which fills pages of econology.

In other words, when is a reality scientifically proven?

Is it when all the deniers died centuries later !!!

As for Galileo http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galil%C3%A9e_%28savant%29 which was almost burned in 1616 and 1633, to declare that the earth turns around the sun, like others were burned, the century before !!
And "And yet it turns" eventually wins, with the progressive natural death of religious deniers, and their ideas on 4 centuries !!

A negation still very much alive, is that of the conservation of energy, made very well establishedsince Galileo, however, and which is very strongly denied by negationists seeking all kinds of perpetual motions, with magnets, turbines, clocks, electrolyses, etc ... even basic pestle hammers, like Realwheel, on econology .

It's the same negation, as declaring that the fear of radioactivity killed the Chernobyl deaths among the liquidators and irradiated, and not this radioactivity !!!

Same, in the last century,The negationists of microbes, constantly asserting spontaneous generation, established dogma, which has exhausted Pasteur to refute it, for more than 20 years, at the academy of medicine, !!

It was only the last century and these negationists are not all dead, it takes centuries!

It is not a coincidence these current deniers, continue in the straight line of the past of spontaneous generation, with a strong religious relent, stubborn, relentless, all at once, to deny vaccinations en bloc, the same to deny the evolution of all life en bloc, negation pure continuation of spontaneous generation, it became too unsustainable, the same to also deny AIDS and its HIV virus, systematically, because they are thea pure continuation of this dogmatic and absurd religious negation, of the realities of life, established scientifically.


Some, like them all the time, deny the scientific realities, established even with millions of deaths, as with the spontaneous generation denying the microbes ce who, due to a lack of asepsis, killed millions of deaths in the last century, and the same denial methods currently deny AIDS actually participating in increase the millions of AIDS deaths !!!

https://www.econologie.com/forums/post229705.html#229705

How do you expect this systematic, obsessive and perpetual negation of published scientific studies to make up a thousand pages of this dialogue of the deaf perpetually on econology.

These are just statements, distorted statements, ceaselessly.

These negations are of the type of unshakable religious belief, systematically refusing reality, as soon as it is in contradiction with religious dogmas, like refusing that the earth turns around the sun, repeating, that it is in contradiction with what we all see it visible, that the sun turns around us in the sky, and always finding a good apparent reason for refusing reality.

There are no convincing studies, according to these deniers of reality, when there are plenty of people infected with HIV, who end up sick with AIDS and have died, like one of my neighbors, and many dead with sexuality. overflowing !!.

An example of this method of rebuttal, escape, in desperation, invoking the inverted placebo effect, for fear of AIDS detected in tests on hemophiliacs, who become sick with fear, following this revelation, and not because HIV:
We could give another explanation and say that the life expectancy fell back to 40 years during the 1987-1989 period mainly because of the introduction of HIV tests (nocebo effect)

Same with AIDS treatments, declared more dangerous than AIDS, for hemophiliacs who would not be sick otherwise !!

This type of reasoning, constantly distorted, typical almost crazy religious, is already bursting to disassemble, in basic physics, much simpler (already impossible, on the earth center of the world, negation ended with the death of the negationists, centuries after , or the electromagnetic scalar waves, on 150 years), but in biology, much more complex, it is much worse, grueling, infernal, since it is necessary to read everything, to disassemble, to restore the reality, step by step, which is that of dead, systematically denied.
Like this, it will end with the natural death of the negationists of this type, as with the negationists of microbes, constantly asserting spontaneous generation, which has exhausted Pasteur to refute it, for more than 20 years, at the academy of medicine. dead microbes they denied !!

For this reason, you will never have an answer to your crazy, addictive arguments, by someone like JC Chermann, or whatever, who has done some essential work on AIDS and HIV. you just have to read their scientific works.

It's the same for the negationists of energy conservation, who always seek, without success, without success, except on fake videos !!!

There is also thenegationists of the theory of scientific realities described in specific theories, which assert that thea theory is a dream, and practice is living or real, and who believe that one can build a common apparatus, ignoring everything from the theory, which in reality is the summary of sometimes tens of thousands of research and technical studies in a very precise concise form, indispensable to know, if we do not want to reinvent all that our predecessors have discovered in sweat and pain, summarized in the final theory.
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by Christophe » 06/04/12, 03:24

Moved in Science and Techno ...

Interesting, I'll participate (maybe) tomorrow, it's late!

See also: https://www.econologie.com/forums/manipulati ... 11307.html
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by plasmanu » 06/04/12, 07:57

Dede E = mc2
Is it true, false or incomplete?
Nobody would question Einstein! Not me for sure

When someone says something: he will always have qq1 to confirm the opposite.
It's human nature. It's an exchange of ideas.

Edit: and refute the evidence of Descartes of the existence of God: eh ded, you must know ... Me I swim there
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by nlc » 06/04/12, 10:24

No, but stop it there ...
A locked subject it connects to a new one.
I will unsubscribe from all topics I think, it becomes unbearable : Evil:
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Re: The negationists of reality, a long tradition




by nlc » 06/04/12, 10:30

dedeleco wrote:As for Galileo http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galil%C3%A9e_%28savant%29 which was almost burned in 1616 and 1633, to declare that the earth turns around the sun, like others were burned, the century before !!
And "And yet it turns" eventually wins, with the progressive natural death of religious deniers, and their ideas on 4 centuries !!


I can not believe !!!!!!!! : Evil: : Evil:

Dede, for info at the time it was the opposite, it was galilee the negationist since it went against the official dogma imposed :!: :!: :!:

I believe that your past research (I still do not know in which area for that matter) have really exhausted your neurons
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by Christophe » 06/04/12, 10:35

+ 1 for nlc there!
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by Janic » 06/04/12, 11:36

Hello Dedeleco
And "And yet it turns" eventually wins, with the progressive natural death of religious deniers, and their ideas on 4 centuries !!

Deep mistake! this idea of ​​a flat earth was shared by everyone, including the scientists of the time, because the idea of ​​gravity was unknown. Logically the ocean water could not have stood on a round surface as anyone could check it as it stood on a flat surface slightly curved like a plate. The theory, then verified of a round earth just made the question rest: why the water, and the rest, does not fall into the void. You can still play big guys now, but at the time, he would have been like everyone else. Stop bringing everything back to the religious when it is not justified, you lose all your credit and underline your ignorance.
Like in the last century, the negationists of microbes, constantly asserting spontaneous generation, established dogma, which has exhausted Pasteur to refute it, for more than 20 years, at the academy of medicine!

Same thing! On one side you deny spontaneous generation as Pastor (and he was right) and on the other you preach evolution with arguments taken from spontaneous generation. Give your violins.
and as Nlc said in his Galilean time and others were the Holocaust deniers, Pasteur himself was also a Holocaust denier. You are a negationist about vaccines by spitting your leuchorrea without bringing scientific and verifiable elements.
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by gegyx » 06/04/12, 12:09

And yet it moves

Reminder to see again this report, rich in emotions and gears ..
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post229559.html#229559

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However, I am "naturally vaccinated" against the "bac + X", who still do not know how to plant a nail.
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by nlc » 06/04/12, 12:22

gegyx wrote:However, I am "naturally vaccinated" against the "bac + X", who still do not know how to plant a nail.


Or do a welding, I see too often in the field of electronics :?
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by chatelot16 » 06/04/12, 13:34

at least on this subject dedeleco will not be off topic since it was him who opened it!

and whoever does not like this subject will not have to come

serious question, who is negationist?

for the priests of a certain period it was a question of the negationist of established dogma

it's a bit like who's terrorist or who's resistant!

Descartes problem: proof that an incomplete quote can say the opposite of what it really meant

common sense is the best-shared thing in the world, but a continuation of the sentence: for even those who are quick to complain never complain of running out of it (common sense)

in the style coluche it would be clearer: everyone is inteligent because persone does not complain about being con

quote from memory ... you just have to go around wikipedia to have it whole

the true reflection of Descartes is that common sense is rare, and must be cultivated ... that it is too easy to think you are full of common sense, and to reason wrongly, and to try to impose them on others.

worst 99% of a complicated reasoning can be right but with a single wrong step that makes the result completely false ... and the wrong step is so well hidden that even those who contradict do not find the fault clearly

we must accept on certain subject that we do not know exactly where the true and the false are: after giving his arguments, it is useless to repeat them until the other accepts them

we are lucky, today we no longer burn those who contradict the official dogma: we can write what we think without danger

the danger begins when you want to force others to think the same thing
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