Is cancer chemotherapy useful?

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Re: Is cancer chemotherapy helpful?




by GuyGadebois » 15/10/19, 12:28

You can always take the example of the respectable Mésségué but he has nothing to do with this rogue liar who owes his salvation only to meat ... whatever you say *. : Mrgreen:

* Since he says it himself. The .pdf biographical document is therefore not "fakenews".
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Re: Is cancer chemotherapy helpful?




by Janic » 15/10/19, 17:47

You can always take the example of the respectable Mésségué
Ouarf! the respectable one today since the order of doctors no longer sought him out by allowing him to practice HIS "illegal medicine" qualified as quackery and M was qualified as such. Events have a story that you seem to ignore: do you know, at least, why they stopped persecuting him?
but he has nothing to do with this rogue liar
and yet that is how M was qualified by ... people like you, and who today qualify him as respectable. There are only fools who do not change their minds!
who owes his salvation only to meat ... whatever you say *.
* Since he says it himself. The .pdf biographical document is therefore not "fakenews".
Oh, ignorance what is not said in your name! This is not his PDF, he only expressed himself by video!
This biography is only a shortcut, therefore not exhaustive, which emphasizes, quite rightly as he says himself, that he had not looked at his problems from the perspective of physiology and unconventional dietetics and which he has since rectified. It would therefore be good for everyone to do as much to understand their situation and their risky choices of the means they used (not that they were wrong, but ill-suited to their case). Like macrobiotics, the instinct or the method of Dr. Carton, the part indicated does not correspond in any way to his teaching and that TC will eventually find by intuition, then by knowledge and experience today.
TC has had a catastrophic experience, well described, of which it is miraculous that he did not die before or after his period of bidoche.
Unfortunately the author of this bio makes too much cut in the text of the videos, to properly account for the situation and the chaotic course of TC.
So why this episode of bidoche in question. Dr. Carton, who has marked his time with his dietary approaches, insists particularly on the adaptation of eating habits according to the condition of the patients and their digestive system and therefore the physiology which TC will not take into account until later. Carton believes that according to the states in question, food should be classified into three categories:
a) easy-digestible, small-fire foods generally cooked for the weakest
b) medium heat for improving organisms and where raw food should slowly and gradually enter the meal.
c) the big fires when the full digestive faculties will be found, therefore believed to the maximum unlike the small fire which are cooked, without acidity, etc… hence the bidoche which is one of the first and which the industry likes to highlight meat.
So bidoche: yes considering the state, but any other small fire product would have done the same, with the same result. But as it was his choice, more psychological than physiological in spite of everything, it is part of the learning of life too, necessary to understand certain phenomena like in agriculture where the soils go through the same processes
Thus Geoffroy, founder of the Clear life, said that the food best suited to the living was that of the most fragile (not the sickest) which also suited the most robust too. Thermodynamic economy would say Sen no sen!
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by GuyGadebois » 15/10/19, 18:45

Janic wrote:
You can always take the example of the respectable Mésségué
Ouarf! the respectable one today since the order of doctors no longer sought him out by allowing him to practice HIS "illegal medicine" qualified as quackery and M was qualified as such. Events have a story that you seem to ignore: do you know, at least, why they stopped persecuting him?<<< Mésségué, I have known since childhood, my mother adored him and applied his principles ... Bad luck for you and your arrogance. : Mrgreen:
who owes his salvation only to meat ... whatever you say *.
* Since he says it himself. The .pdf biographical document is therefore not "fakenews".
Oh, ignorance what is not said in your name! This is not his PDF, he only expressed himself by video! <<< He says it himself:
It is special for me. I am not "vegan" in the proper sense of the term. I have been a vegetarian for a large part of my life. I have campaigned a lot for this cause, but in practice eating meat has helped me at some point in my life. I was weak when I started eating raw and ate large amounts of raw meat. I think from my understanding of physiology it saved my life, since I was exhausted. I needed a very dense diet and, above all, everything that is found in animal products like adrenaline.

This led me to think about the consumption of animal products in specific cases. In absolute terms, I would say that I have no problem with eating meat. On the other hand, I cannot bear animal suffering. The problem in our society is that if you consume animals, it is that there was suffering.
I made the choice to eat it instinctively. I know it saved my life so I don't judge anyone.
http://lafrancecrue-fr.over-blog.com/20 ... treme.html

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Re: Is cancer chemotherapy helpful?




by Janic » 16/10/19, 08:44

Janic wrote:
Events have a story that you seem to ignore: do you know, at least, why they stopped persecuting him?
Misled, I have known since childhood, my mother adored him and applied his principles ...
And me too and in addition I was a neighbor! big deal !
Lack of luck for you and your morgue.
What morgue? I defend SA gait, which apparently your mother approved, and it was not with his followers that he had problems, but with the medical institution, the one you approve of.

I made the choice to eat it instinctively. I know it saved my life so I don't judge anyone.
http://lafrancecrue-fr.over-blog.com/20 ... treme.html


Thank you, I listened and re-listened to his video and a few others and as I mentioned for Dr. Carton, it was not the meat as such that saved it, but to have eliminated , by this means, the intense digestive and hepatic reaction of raw plant foods, called great fire, which is not the case of the jug as a dead product, without powerful ferment.
So apart from his specific case, most of the cases where the consumption of bidoche is the majority it has constantly caused major organic disorders, almost unanimously recognized by hygienist therapists. As a reminder, tuberculosis was treated in sanatoriums with a lot of "fortifying" meats and with deplorable results, and this improved with a drastic reduction in the bag and its replacement by more living and invigorating plants.
As for adrenaline, it is produced by the stress of the animals which are going to be killed, which is far from being a good solution because rather harmful in a case like hers where it was not an additional stimulation which was necessary , but rather a rest.

Adrenaline has a short duration of action [i](around two minutes) because it is rapidly degraded by two enzymes, catechol oxymethyltransferase (COMT) and monoamine oxidase (MAO). [/ i]

Clearly if he had been surrounded by experienced practitioners instead of pecked on the right, on the left, he would probably have accelerated his rehabilitation, but this is his experience and she respects herself, it does not make her a reference for as much.
I neither defend nor reject his path, on the contrary, his experience is used by his followers to better understand the complex mechanisms of life where each case is specific and where there is no ideal system, nor to idealize, c 'it is by putting into practice their own internal means that everyone finds the resolution of their problems.

On the other hand, I cannot bear animal suffering. The problem in our society is that if you consume animals, it is that there was suffering.
This is essential!
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Re: Is cancer chemotherapy helpful?




by Janic » 16/10/19, 09:42

https://books.google.fr/books?id=JLp7Dw ... re&f=false

and yet I heal ... memory of a healer by Maurice Messegué where he recounts his trials and setbacks with the medical intelligentsia
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Re: Is cancer chemotherapy helpful?




by Janic » 17/10/19, 08:02

@electron
To resume the example of cancer, to extract a small dormant tumor is to risk an awakening of it which will then extend to the rest of the body by metastasis because any oncologist is a guru in his specialty .
Assume that you yourself are a victim of a real cancer, material, concrete: you get rid of how? (You have solution lovers here,) Do you have your ego or tumor removed? Where do you leave them in place to avoid worse?
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Re: Is cancer chemotherapy helpful?




by izentrop » 17/10/19, 23:53

Nothing better than a cancer specialist to talk about it ...
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Re: Is cancer chemotherapy helpful?




by Janic » 18/10/19, 10:22

Very interesting video, concerning what this scientist says, among a multitude of other scientists besides with more or less concordant or contradictory opinions. Except, as he points out, that these are often only hypotheses which may or may not be confirmed over time, but which are not without logic, within the framework and the limits it se women; limits which are precisely those of biology on the move.
This does not, moreover, answer the initial question: "is chemo useful?" and "all useful mammograms" leading to treatment without justification, if not doing business.
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by izentrop » 18/10/19, 22:03

Stop with your business and you haven't listened until he talks about it 55:05 pm and October Pink a little further ...
At 70:55 it should also interest you : Wink:
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Re: Is cancer chemotherapy helpful?




by izentrop » 18/10/19, 22:34

About Thierry Casasnova mentioned in the previous video at 70:55 min
In 2018 and in the first half of 1, the inter-ministerial mission to combat sectarian aberrations (Miviludes) announced that they had recorded 2019 reports concerning extreme diets out of the 161 it receives each year. A high figure, they say.

Originally concerned citizens or relatives of victims. So, faced with the growing popularity of the raw eating and long-term fasting movements, Miviludes is raising a cry of alert. First in his sights, a certain Thierry Casasnovas, who has been the subject of more than 400 reports since 2016, including more than 250 in 2017, after petitions against him.

A record. The most popular videos of this rising youtuber, who started in 2011, reach 500 to 000 million views! "Therapist", without medical diploma, he suggests that a raw diet of fruits, vegetables and fresh juice can cure cancer or autism. This change in diet would even have allowed him to treat "his tuberculosis, hepatitis, pancreatitis and drug addiction"!

"He calls for replacing drugs with raw food"
Everyone is free to eat what they want. "But the problem is thathe goes so far as to call chemotherapy death to the rat! He calls for replacing drugs with raw food and not in addition, there is the red line. We then talk about loss of luck, ”warns Audrey Keysers of Miviludes.

Behind their screen, the most sensitive to his speech are vulnerable people, already sick, confronted with heavy treatments, in search of hope, of a natural solution. "In his words, there is always a scientific background that he totally perverts to make him stick to his ideology," explains François Morel, cancer surgeon in Rouen, who dismantles Casasnovas' argument in videos.

When questioned, Thierry Casasnovas was surprised at the number of reports against him: “400? ! If it is because the state of people has deteriorated with raw food, I will question myself. But if that is to say that I am a guru, I don't care. ” http://www.leparisien.fr/societe/l-inqu ... 168934.php
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