Brain Functioning: NBIC, Consciousness and Cognitive, Studies, Research, Facts and Mysteries

[sen-no-sen]

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I think so too ... And it bothers me ... what will it be used for? to judge me later

Do not joke, it is quite possible that at the last moment of our life, relative time slowing down (see the film Jacob's Ladder!), We become our own judge ... with the keys a Paradise or a Hell create mentally.

[Obamot]

Absolutely (although the joke of our friend Le_Juste, made me laugh a lot by its subtlety ^^) the risk of falling into "$ cientism" is enormous (just like $ cientology and others have already done crazy organizations).

You can quickly pour in the summum of human stupidity, as with the "New management", made in the Atlantic:

This type of research approach is extremely dangerous and [EDIT: can be hijacked for sad purposes] it goes back at least to the Nazi practices of the last world war (I'm not saying "second" because I hope that there won't be one more ...).

The latest similar techniques are recent:
- developed during the 1st Gulf War, with the sending of psychiatric specialists to the field to study "on the spot" the result of the atrocities experienced and also committed by the GI's (and other private militias);
- then, techniques imported and adapted to the business world and exported all over the world => which means that today we are "evaluated" in every way: read Agnès Aflalo's book "Evaluate kills"
http://forumpsy.wordpress.com/

Which shows how dangerous this track is ...

Evaluate kills
“Evaluation - with its culture of quantifying everything - is not only rebellious to life, it chases it to death. First, it removes the floor and replaces it with checkboxes. Then, she tracks down the libido with wacky calculations which claim to overcome her however irreducible opacity and thus paralyze the very movement which animates each living being ”

More and more denounced by psychiatrists ... We see the devastation with the emergence of "stress" (suicide due to stress) in the workplace ...

Even yet another extrapolation, in the last show on placebos [beware, this show upsets all received ideas about the "placebo effect": do you think you know everything? Look at this report, you will fall from above ...]:
http://www.tsr.ch/video/emissions/36-9/ ... acebo.html

That's why you really have to take it all with tweezers ....

[dedeleco]

Tsr.ch annoys me because it is impossible to record it and watch with an internet provider, which has a variable geometry speed, cuts due to insufficient band at this provider saturated at certain times, therefore report seen hatched by force, annoying, because nothing new in it, not even the recent study that the placebo even works by telling the patient that he is given a pill where there is nothing in it !!
This is in fact the case of homeopathy !!
Classic report and realized similarly on Arte already !!

For the pain we all see, on ourselves, that the pain is very subjective, because if focused on something else crucial, we do not feel that we are injured and we discover it with surprise after !!
So this is proof that the brain controls pain strongly, in the case of acupuncture, and we can, with a little will, control or resist this pain, without drugs, often more harmful and useless !!
For the osteopath, in addition to self-control, there is above all basic mechanical sense, very scientific, which allows to put back in place by reflecting on the movement that has gone wrong or stuck !!
So I put back my knee sometimes stuck for 49 years !!
Some in the same situation by forcing had to shrivel it up !!
I thus put back in place a vertebral disc, moved with sciatica, tennis forehand, doing only backhand the next day, in extension !! To jump, with sciatica, to be extended on a backhand, it must be done. But it works !!
The principle is to redo the same movement that moved, but changed a little to put back in place !!
For 16 years it has remained in place, but with signals that the disc has play from time to time, but as I do a lot more sport to build that back, intensive hill cycling, the disc stays in place !! !!
When I see in my family, some subscribers to the osteopath as their savior, for similar problems, it makes me laugh !!
Just use the scientific method !!
For pain, the will often makes it possible to dispense with painkillers given all too easily !!

[sen-no-sen]

This type of research approach is extremely dangerous and goes back at least to the Nazi practices of the last world war (I don't say "second" because I hope there won't be one more. .).

I did not follow well you are referring to what types of Obamot approach?

Even yet another extrapolation, in the last show on placebos [beware, this show upsets all received ideas about the "placebo effect": do you think you know everything? Look at this report, you will fall from above ...]:
http://www.tsr.ch/video/emissions/36-9/ ... acebo.html

That's why you really have to take it all with tweezers ....

Very interesting! I had already read several articles on the subject.
Question, wouldn't miraculous cures in Lourde be a hyperboost effect?

[dedeleco]

For the pain we all see, on ourselves, that the pain is very subjective, because if focused on something else crucial, we do not feel that we are injured and we discover it with surprise after !!
So this is proof that the brain controls pain strongly, in the case of acupuncture, and we can, with a little will, control or resist this pain, without drugs, often more harmful and useless !!
For the osteopath, in addition to self-control, there is above all basic mechanical sense, very scientific, which allows to put back in place by reflecting on the movement that has gone wrong or stuck !!
So I put back my knee sometimes stuck for 49 years !!
Some in the same situation by forcing had to shrivel it up !!
I thus put back in place a vertebral disc, moved with sciatica, tennis forehand, doing only backhand the next day, in extension !! To jump, with sciatica, to be extended on a backhand, it must be done. But it works !!
The principle is to redo the same movement that moved, but changed a little to put back in place !!
For 16 years it has remained in place, but with signals that the disc has play from time to time, but as I do a lot more sport to build that back, intensive hill cycling, the disc stays in place !! !!
When I see in my family, some subscribers to the osteopath as their savior, for similar problems, it makes me laugh !!
Just use the scientific method !!
For pain, the will often makes it possible to dispense with painkillers given all too easily !!

I add that we feel better ourselves the problems than the doctor or osteopath and therefore to put back in place, we feel the good movement better, with the small detail that puts back in place instead of moving, in the configuration where there has too much mechanical play !!
Same for the pain, if we know that it is possible to control, we resist better, without drugs.
For example to clean a wound, pierce a boil, I prefer to do it myself than to have it done !!

[Obamot]

No, sorry Dedelco, having indirectly participated in the preparation of this program, I can tell you that what we learned there is completely new! Agree with the bad access but I can not do anything about it, it will be necessary to locate when it will pass on TV5 (if it is programmed).
I was thus one of the first to say that the placebo effect should also "be used" for the active substances of drugs and amplify the effect of their de facto dosage ... (it's been quite a while since I said in a thread) I already made these remarks at the time or the pharmaceutical industry did not dare to admit it and was even “ashamed” of it (it goes back to the time when I was still collaborating with the WHO)

What is therefore very new is that it is finally accepted as "an integral part of the processing".

In addition, we learn that from these "psychobiological" and "psychobiochemical" combinations / creations, the certainty that the body is the largest factory of "drugs" that exists is born! And that he is able to produce them in such a way as to respond very precisely to the needs ... most of the time! The report also addresses a psychoesoteric dimension, which played a beneficial role.

This is also why we need the night, to "repair the body" [...]

But all this only works optimally, ONLY if you have an organism that is not weak and if you make a minimum of physical effort!

I did not follow well you are referring to what types of Obamot approach?

I was referring to the possible diversion of these new approaches, by manipulators (as many other techniques have been diverted in the past, like NLP, hypnosis, etc., even even spirituality)
The problem also is that we will want to commodify it, it's really very bad.

[sen-no-sen]

We also learn that from these combinations / creations
I was referring to the possible diversion of these new approaches, by manipulators (as many other techniques have been diverted in the past, like NLP, hypnosis, etc., even even spirituality)
The problem also is that we will want to commodify it, it's really very bad.

Neuroscience indeed offers worrying possibilities for diversion.
There is already talk of psychotronic weapons for the battlefields of tomorrow.

[I Citro]

Tonight was broadcast on France Inter the third part of a series entitled The brain, a dizzying organ. It was passionate.

[Obamot]

Yes it's true, in terms of basic research, it's undoubtedly exciting!

Neuroscience indeed offers worrying possibilities for diversion.
There is already talk of psychotronic weapons for the battlefields of tomorrow.

Man has not finished wanting to impose his will on his fellows, alas, he does not always use his power of "conviction" wisely, especially when he seeks to manipulate them! : - /
I think that Ethics Commissions will soon be dealing with specific cases.

[Janic]

obamot hello

In addition, we learn that from these "psychobiological" and "psychobiochemical" combinations / creations, the certainty that the body is the largest factory of "drugs" that exists is born! And that he is able to produce them in such a way as to respond very precisely to the needs ... most of the time!

fortunately otherwise life would have disappeared a long time ago ... before it even started, by the way!