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Re: Astronomy: latest news from the stars




by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 29/01/21, 14:35

Gildas wrote:A journey through the Orion nebula, in the video we see a face at 1,40.
Seen from the earth, the light of this nebula is already 1300 years old ...
https://www.lemonde.fr/blog/autourducie ... se-dorion/

Yes then the faces (but not only), it is what humans perceive most often, since always while looking at the clouds.
Faces, more faces ...

In his book Faces in the Clouds, a certain Stewart Elliott Guthrie observes in human beings "a predisposition to see faces, whether they are there or not". He explains that if human faces are what we recognize the most, it is because "no other object in the visual world is so important to us". Indeed, in order to survive, it is necessary to recognize human beings - normally, these are our potential allies. By integrating this principle, we become experts and look for faces everywhere, at the risk of falling into the illusion.

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https://www.wikiwand.com/fr/Par%C3%A9idolie
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Re: Astronomy: latest news from the stars




by ABC2019 » 29/01/21, 16:42

Gildas wrote:A journey through the Orion nebula, in the video we see a face at 1,40.
Seen from the earth, the light of this nebula is already 1300 years old ...
https://www.lemonde.fr/blog/autourducie ... se-dorion/

and at 2'30 we see ET who winks at us :)

Guy is right, the human eye tends to see faces whenever possible (the pareidolias) We even see one in the Moon, although Asian and Native American civilizations see it as a rabbit. Please note that the video presented is not a "real" dive in 3D but a virtual reconstruction from the images obtained "flat" on the sky and models to reconstruct them in 3D, it is obviously impossible to dive directly into the nebula.
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Re: Astronomy: latest news from the stars




by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 29/01/21, 16:54

ABC2019 wrote:
Gildas wrote:A journey through the Orion nebula, in the video we see a face at 1,40.
Seen from the earth, the light of this nebula is already 1300 years old ...
https://www.lemonde.fr/blog/autourducie ... se-dorion/

and at 2'30 we see ET who winks at us :)

Guy is right, the human eye tends to see faces whenever possible (the pareidolias) We even see one in the Moon, although Asian and Native American civilizations see it as a rabbit. Please note that the video presented is not a "real" dive in 3D but a virtual reconstruction from the images obtained "flat" on the sky and models to reconstruct them in 3D, it is obviously impossible to dive directly into the nebula.

The priority of what we see is directly linked to our beliefs. Some will see Jesus, others the virgin, others Mohammed, etc, etc ...
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Re: Astronomy: latest news from the stars




by gildas » 01/02/21, 10:56

Hello,
Modern cosmology approaches biblical accounts ...
Modern cosmology has therefore also been subject to major reshuffles, which suddenly brought it closer to the biblical account of a non-static universe but emerging from nothing in the form of energy ("let there be light"), partially transforming into matter (formation of the firmament on the "second day") ...


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Re: Astronomy: latest news from the stars




by Christophe » 02/02/21, 10:44

France2 interviewed Avi Loeb

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Re: Astronomy: latest news from the stars




by Christophe » 02/02/21, 10:47

On France Inter:



And Arte ... which pushes the analysis stopper a little too far for my taste ... : Shock:

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Re: Astronomy: latest news from the stars




by Christophe » 04/02/21, 14:21

New setbacks for SpaceX and its Starship SNx ... but the exercise is difficult ... very ...

https://sciencepost.fr/starship-sn9-spacex/

Starship crash: what SpaceX is trying to do is incredibly difficult

While the Starship SN8's test flight is still fresh in our memories, its successor, the SN9, flew off on Tuesday before also missing the landing. But let's face it: what SpaceX is trying to do is unprecedented and incredibly difficult.

SpaceX's Starship prototype SN9 successfully took off on Tuesday, February 2, over South Texas. After having reached an altitude of ten kilometers, the vessel then began its descent “belly forward” so as to be able to purge its speed. He then relied on his reaction control thrusters so as to return to the vertical position to prepare for the landing, again missed.

Seven weeks have passed since the flight of its predecessor, the SN8. Even so, the SN9 suffered a similar fate. It appeared that one of the two Raptor engines intended to allow the controlled final descent failed to reignite (see a great view at idle). As a result, the vehicle was unable to reorient into the upright position. But can we really call it a failure? Absolutely not.

"One of the greatest breakthroughs in human history"
It is indeed necessary to take a step back to fully understand what SpaceX is trying to do with its Starship: unheard of.

With its Falcon 9 program, SpaceX has demonstrated its ability to launch and land a rocket, yes, but the Starship is something else. It's an orbital ship, not a launcher. The Starship will not “simply” need to fire its engines for eight minutes and then fall back into the ocean. It will have to be able to restart its engines several times, to survive for weeks or even months in space, but also to reenter the Earth's atmosphere with minimal effects to ensure rapid reuse.

As Elon Musk told his teams a few months ago at a meeting attended by journalist Eric Berger of Ars Technica: “It is stupidly difficult to develop a fully reusable orbital system. It would be one of the greatest breakthroughs in human history ”.

So it's essential to understand that what Musk asks of his engineers is damn hard, but they have no choice but to take on this challenge.

SpaceX is giving itself the means to succeed with its plant in Boca Chica, in South Texas. The company can now build and launch these stainless steel ships at a breakneck pace, allowing Musk to view failure more as an option. That's not to say that SpaceX teams are "thrilled" with these last two crashes, of course. On the other hand, this factory and this iterative design program - each new vehicle improves on its previous model - makes it easier and faster to move on to subsequent tests.

Also this last test of the SN9, once again spectacular, will allow the engineers to collect as much data as possible to start the following test campaign, with the SN10 already positioned on its pad.

So yes, SpaceX still has a long way to go before the Starship is fully operational, but let's not forget that the company and its engineers are making aerospace history once again.




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Re: Astronomy: latest news from the stars




by Christophe » 04/02/21, 14:26

But Musk will be supported by Bezos ... with a little contradictory ambitions ... no?

https://trends.levif.be/economie/entrep ... 88503.html

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Re: Astronomy: latest news from the stars




by gegyx » 04/02/21, 14:35

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a little berlot the team, yes.

To take off a rocket in test, and especially to try to make it re-land in the same place, in the immediate vicinity of another waiting rocket!

They are players ... Especially since the US state is counting on it to send astronauts (and bring them back?) : Shock:
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Re: Astronomy: latest news from the stars




by Christophe » 04/02/21, 14:41

gegyx wrote: in the immediate vicinity of another waiting rocket!


Yes it also challenged me ... it is increasing the risks for nothing ...

Now they had already managed to rest upright many times ...

gegyx wrote: They are players ...


It's research ... : Cheesy: : Cheesy: : Cheesy:
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