How does an RNA vaccine work? Is it GMO by CRISPR-Cas9 in Vivo?

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Re: How does an RNA vaccine work? Is it GMO by CRISPR-Cas9 in Vivo?




by izentrop » 11/01/21, 21:59

here
Christophe wrote:Okay but a little light don't you think? And when I read this ... it calls into question the seriousness of this article ...: Shock: : Shock: : Shock: Reassure me !
No I do not find, it is a good popularization.

You would have the link of your screen shoot, because it seems very pessimistic to me.
Scientists are very careful with their statements, which is classic.

Low immunity has been noted for mild and asymptomatic cases https://www.esanum.fr/today/posts/covid ... tomatiques this would not be the case with vaccinated or the dose is largely sufficient to provoke a very clear immune reaction.

Moreover, PCR tests are unable to detect long immune memory, B cells.
There is no test for this, there are still unknowns, but another recent study found immunity for at least 8 months, so nothing is lost.

We can look for lice everywhere, vaccination is the only way out, even if we will not see the effects for 5 to 6 months.
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by izentrop » 11/01/21, 22:09

Christophe wrote:I do not believe it !!! Youtube censored Nobel Prize video posted in first post
Probably censorship of the author of this video, because her message was hijacked, she was not talking about messenger RNA but about another https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/malad ... 45215.html

Must stop relaying without hindsight, the fakes news of antivax : roll:
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by ABC2019 » 11/01/21, 22:19

izentrop wrote:
Christophe wrote:I do not believe it !!! Youtube censored Nobel Prize video posted in first post
Probably censorship of the author of this video, because her message was hijacked, she was not talking about messenger RNA but about another https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/malad ... 45215.html:


this is what I explained, of course that if the Crispr-Cas9 technique developed in particular by Emmanuelle Charpentier does indeed use messenger RNA, but messenger RNA which is a copy of the DNA that 'we want to modify (so if we wanted to modify human DNA, we would have to use human messenger RNA). While of course the vaccine uses virus DNA, which has no reason to match human DNA, and therefore cannot attach to it. Normal that E. Charpentier deleted her video if she realized that his explanations were misunderstood.
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by izentrop » 11/01/21, 22:32

ABC2019 wrote:this is what I explained, of course that if the Crispr-Cas9 technique developed in particular by Emmanuelle Charpentier does indeed use messenger RNA,
Ah! but you know better than the specialists
Guide RNA and messenger RNA are "totally different in terms of structure and function," says Frédéric Rieux-Laucat. Messenger RNA plays a transitional role. It carries a copy of a portion of the genetic information contained in DNA from the nucleus of the cell to its cytoplasm. This instruction will be read and give rise to the corresponding protein. RNA guides, "does not encode absolutely nothing at all", continues Michel Tassetto, researcher in the department of microbiology and immunology at the University of California at San Francisco. Guide RNA, as its name suggests, directs an enzyme (called Cas9) to the portion of the genetic sequence on which it will act. "Messenger RNA is incapable of doing that", insists Frédéric Rieux-Laucat.

The difference between messenger RNA and guide RNA is obvious under a microscope. The two types of RNA do not have the same number of nucleotides at all, which make up their structure. "Messenger RNA is quite long. It is at least 3 nucleotides, specifies Michel Tassetto. Guide RNA is much smaller. It is around 000 nucleotides."
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by Obamot » 11/01/21, 23:29

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pedrodelavega wrote:Do [trust] especially the health professionals who vaccinate you and get vaccinated. [/ b] : Wink:
False, Dr Fouché (intensive care) has said many times that he would not be vaccinated by these pseudo 'genetic engineering' vaccines, perhaps they have a Chinese vaccine at the IHU? : Cheesy:
No, at the ihu, they have the Pfizer (it's marked above).
As for Louis Fouché, this is not his first stupidity. He's more of a politician than a doctor now.
Sophism: “If it is marked that they have the Pfizer IT IS SO GOOD THAT [...] bla-bla-bla, they don't have any others ... [...] bla-bla-bla they have not been vaccinated elsewhere “ [...] etc ...

If he's playing politics (so it's good that ... blah-blah-blah ...) I don't know, old man: expressing common sense certainly (he's very talented and very subtle) he shows empathy, knows how to put the church in the middle of the village, is an excellent pégdagogue, all these qualities that are lacking in garbage collectors who howl with wolves :P

It doesn't shock me as long as he's a scientist ... and you :?: Tsssss ...

New mix of tea towels and napkins, because so far it's the opposite, we have seen pipeau-litique who invent the lives of scientists and it leads to the mismanagement we have seen, and that on the other hand, that does not shock you!
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by ABC2019 » 11/01/21, 23:43

izentrop wrote:
ABC2019 wrote:this is what I explained, of course that if the Crispr-Cas9 technique developed in particular by Emmanuelle Charpentier does indeed use messenger RNA,
Ah! but you know better than the specialists
Guide RNA and messenger RNA are "totally different in terms of structure and function," says Frédéric Rieux-Laucat. Messenger RNA plays a transitional role. It carries a copy of a portion of the genetic information contained in DNA from the nucleus of the cell to its cytoplasm. This instruction will be read and give rise to the corresponding protein. RNA guides, "does not encode absolutely nothing at all", continues Michel Tassetto, researcher in the department of microbiology and immunology at the University of California at San Francisco. Guide RNA, as its name suggests, directs an enzyme (called Cas9) to the portion of the genetic sequence on which it will act. "Messenger RNA is incapable of doing that", insists Frédéric Rieux-Laucat.

The difference between messenger RNA and guide RNA is obvious under a microscope. The two types of RNA do not have the same number of nucleotides at all, which make up their structure. "Messenger RNA is quite long. It is at least 3 nucleotides, specifies Michel Tassetto. Guide RNA is much smaller. It is around 000 nucleotides."

indeed, it is a guide RNA instead of messenger RNA, I have simplified so as not to complicate the discussion. It's a name difference because of the difference in function, but chemically RNA is still a polymer of ribonucleotides carrying the bases A, U, C, G. The function is not the same (what I explained), it is not used to code proteins but as a marker to recognize a portion of DNA.

There are also other RNAs in the cell, transfer RNAs, which are used to translate codons into proteins: one side matches the 3 base codon, and the other side attaches to the amino acid corresponding thanks to a particular conformation. In fact RNAs have several different functions in the cell.
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by Obamot » 12/01/21, 01:17

I also find that this time Izentrop gave satisfactory elements. It must be said Mr .... thin! : Lol:

: Arrowd: So that was partially wrong, : Arrowd: Okay ?

ABC2019 wrote:I don't know if it's been said on the wire yet, but mRNA vaccine technology has nothing to do with Crispr-Cas9. Crisper-Cas9 is a DNA modification technique that uses mRNAs to precisely locate the place in DNA where a gene is to be inserted. The idea is to associate with restriction enzymes CRISPR (which knows how to "cut" DNA and insert a gene into it), an mRNA sequence which mirrors a DNA sequence to stick to it and precisely cut the DNA there. For that to work, it is therefore necessary to insert an mRNA having the same sequences as the DNA (in mirror image since the 4 bases of the DNA are complementary and pair 2 by 2). So if we want to do Crispr-cas9 on human DNA, we have to use human mRNA.

While the vaccine uses mRNA of the virus, to synthesize proteins of the virus, to trigger an immune response. A virus RNA cannot by definition recognize a sequence of human DNA!
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by Obamot » 12/01/21, 04:26

Well ... without dec ... must go further than the Krisprolls in-vivo, : Cheesy: and the "background noise" quarrels

It's incomplete there the trolls : Cheesy: ... how to interface / code - not just with an ephemeral piece of RNA (m) ... but with a sequence specific to each one, to his identity, something deep, indelible and immutable: perfectly perennial like your biometric (and biological) passport a kind of bioelectronic tag-tatoo what - with:
a unique codex on X99 billion combinations ... - codex of unique ID that a technology could allow to enter “in the background” and match with a virtual meme on the web indicating your last position and constantly updated in real time, information also crossed with facial recognition wherever it exists, all the time (relegating every human being to the rank of 'simple 5G device') and allowing you to track you permanently via your laptop, via any WIFI terminal, or payment terminal, gas station, automatic machine ã banknote, GPS, cash register, video game console (or whatever) ... and code that each would individually be the only one to hold until his death, unfalsifiable because it comes somewhere from the expression of our own genes, the “connecting people” Georges Orwell way via your smartphone or anything connected: the nightmare of absolute and permanent total control, not held by governments alone, but by private companies (financial, banks, insurance companies, military organizations or others) : Cheesy: : Cheesy: : Cheesy: are conspis sites that far from reality?

Is it true that the FDP are working on this to “file” the whole planet ....? : Mrgreen: :( : Mrgreen:

What about freemasons and other illuminati initiated in this "festival" : Shock: (Zuckerberg, Gates, Sorros, Schwab, etc ...)

PS: Christophe, you can initiate a new subject with that if you feel like it, unless it already exists?
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by Christophe » 12/01/21, 07:31

Why would I initiate a purely speculative and conspiratorial subject of which I am not defending the idea ??? He is nice !! : Shock: : Mrgreen:

For me the subject is closed: the question was resolved by the CRIIGEN video

science-and-technology / how-rn-vaccine-works-how-is-gmo-t16695-60.html

So I really want to close ...
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by Christophe » 12/01/21, 07:36

izentrop wrote:here
Christophe wrote:Okay but a little light don't you think? And when I read this ... it calls into question the seriousness of this article ...: Shock: : Shock: : Shock: Reassure me !
No I do not find, it is a good popularization.

You would have the link of your screen shoot, because it seems very pessimistic to me.
Scientists are very careful with their statements, which is classic.


CNRS posted here a few days ago: health-pollution-prevention / vaccines-covid-le-vidal-condemns-the-use-outside-amm-conspiracy-or-reason-o-tempora-o-mores-t16698.html

You lack attendance at forum the...
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