The fable of anthropogenic warming and the fight against CO2

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Re: The fable of anthropogenic warming and the fight against CO2




by izentrop » 04/08/20, 17:37

THE minority is not necessarily what you think https://www.franceinter.fr/emissions/ch ... 1596471536
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by Exnihiloest » 04/08/20, 17:39

Obamot wrote:...
Do you hear Exnihiloest? It seems that the egoist here is only YOU .. and not the “others” ... : Wink:
Well wow, the monomaniac sophisms, it goes more ... What a time! : Mrgreen:

Oh yes, what a time! If we do not show ourselves to be an environmentalist in the political sense of the term, if we do not pledge allegiance to them, it is because we would like the destruction of future generations. Their "arguments" are circumstantial, usually ad personam argument; there it would be to satisfy his egoism : roll:.
This is the recurring message of ecofascism, the crusade version of this new religion that is ecologism, the unique and indisputable camp of good! This currently intellectual despotism could well become more general if it obtains power.
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Re: The fable of anthropogenic warming and the fight against CO2




by Exnihiloest » 04/08/20, 17:53

izentrop wrote:THE minority is not necessarily what you think https://www.franceinter.fr/emissions/ch ... 1596471536

The weather is affectively proof of global warming, except when it is cold. We know the song.
But the question is not even the warming, which no one or almost no one disputes, at least not me.
The question is that of the rudimentary knowledge that we have, quite insufficient for long-term predictions.
The question is that of the anthropogenic part and the impact of CO2 (both, overestimated amha).
The question is that of the interest, or not, of warming.
The question is that of the interest, or not, of the possibility, or not, of opposing warming and / or CO2, and if we do so, collateral damage (certainly greater than the hypothetical drawbacks of warming).
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Re: The fable of anthropogenic warming and the fight against CO2




by izentrop » 04/08/20, 18:12

Professor Calculus knows more than all IPCC scientists, it is well known. : Mrgreen:
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Re: The fable of anthropogenic warming and the fight against CO2




by Obamot » 04/08/20, 18:58

Exnihiloest wrote:
Paul72 wrote:Wow, I've never seen such twisted reasoning to explain how great oil is and that we must continue to mortgage our future since it is future generations who will find solutions to the problems we have created.

For millennia, it is thus, and it works perfectly [...] bla-bla-bla


I'm afraid you're off the mark ... (As usual?)

If we bring your simplistic reasoning back to the facts, we see that it does not match.

Humanity has practically burnt its “capital” of energy resources in 150 years. If we take this back to pre-industrial times, since the domestication of fire 800 years ago, it is as if man had “burned” all the wood available on the planet during this period. .. what he did not do ...

And so for millennia this has not been so.

Where you shoot yourself in the foot is that starting from the same reasoning, you should fully support solar in all its forms and thermodynamic solar in particular (since humanity has been using it since long before domestication. fire!

Except this is not the case, you are still in a rearguard fight (which is not going anywhere with the CO2 emissions ...)
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Re: The fable of anthropogenic warming and the fight against CO2




by Paul72 » 05/08/20, 13:37

izentrop wrote:Professor Calculus knows more than all IPCC scientists, it is well known. : Mrgreen:


Especially since, whatever the skeptics may say, the uncertainties about the climate for the next 100 years depend essentially on the emission curves - capture of greenhouse gases.
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by Exnihiloest » 05/08/20, 15:28

izentrop wrote:Professor Calculus knows more than all IPCC scientists, it is well known. : Mrgreen:

It is within reach of anyone. Just don't flaunt your ignorance, unlike the scientists at the IPCC, who double to triple the 5-year forecasts.
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by Exnihiloest » 05/08/20, 15:31

Paul72 wrote:...
Especially since, whatever the skeptics may say, the uncertainties about the climate for the next 100 years depend essentially on the emission curves - capture of greenhouse gases.

Climate sensitivity is constantly being reviewed. At this level of "understanding" of the climate, we are at the level of astrological forecasts.
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by Exnihiloest » 05/08/20, 15:38

Obamot wrote:...
Humanity has practically burnt its “capital” of energy resources in 150 years ...

Free affirmation.
We detect new deposits, we go looking for oil deeper, we find alternatives (shale gas ...).

We have more than enough to last without depriving ourselves until we have mastered nuclear fusion. We must stop swallowing the propaganda of the declinologists.
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Re: The fable of anthropogenic warming and the fight against CO2




by Obamot » 05/08/20, 17:07

Such evidence is only you who does not see them!

You should stop your phishing, because we don't care!

Or if you believe it, you're an expert in the roundabouts. :( : Mrgreen:
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