The fable of anthropogenic warming and the fight against CO2

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Re: The fable of anthropogenic warming and the fight against CO2




by Exnihiloest » 27/12/22, 16:06

izentrop wrote:...
Exnihiloest wrote: The number of victims has been divided by 20 in 100 years.
That's probably true too, but it doesn't change the previous fact.


Not clear at all, your speech.
Would you agree that the disasters related to weather and climate are not worse today than yesterday, on the contrary?
Otherwise you will have to provide the stats.
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by Exnihiloest » 29/12/22, 18:08

 
Snowfall in Tabuk, Saudi Arabia, December 27, 2022:

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And soon, we will be skiing in Medina (24° 28′ 07″ north, 39° 36′ 39″ east), and not indoors!

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by Exnihiloest » 12/01/23, 19:41

 
Abnormally mild temperatures? Maybe in France, but it's not "global".

Elsewhere it is very cold, for example -62,1°C in Dzalinda in Siberia. And -60°C or less in a dozen stations in Siberia over an area 20 times the size of the tip of Western Europe. Even for Siberia it is abnormally cold.

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by izentrop » 12/01/23, 20:02

Exnihiloest wrote: Abnormally mild temperatures? Maybe in France, but it's not "global".
At the global level, we are also breaking records.
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by Exnihiloest » 12/01/23, 21:22

izentrop wrote:
Exnihiloest wrote: Abnormally mild temperatures? Maybe in France, but it's not "global".
At the global level, we are also breaking records.


I won't even need to look for a more objective opinion. We can clearly see the inflection of the curve. The climate has always fluctuated, the background noise rises and falls, and fortunately we have a welcome slight warming (0,13°C per decade) which poses no problem for adaptation.

It is scientifically confirmed. "New, faster method to measure global warming shows no acceleration or slowdown":
https://phys.org/news/2022-03-faster-me ... wdown.html

No "climate emergency", therefore, except among climatologists and alarmists.
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by Exnihiloest » 12/01/23, 21:34

 

Let's talk about the so-called consensus and economic suicide through the useless fight against CO2.

Remarkable open letter on the subject, to the Secretary-General of the United Nations António Guterres, by Guus Berkhout, president of the Climate Intelligence Foundation (CLINTEL), an independent foundation which acts in the fields of climate change and the climate policies that are carried out.

Your excellence,

You announced an Ambition Climate Summit in September 2023. For this Summit, you are making the usual plea for an additional effort to reduce greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions. More precisely, you say: "There will be no place for fugitives, ecologists, rehabilitators, .......". These are big words, but are you aware that:

More and more people around the world are wondering how it is possible that the UN is still proposing far-reaching measures that absolutely fail to stop global warming, but which will instead have an extraordinary negative impact on prosperity and the well-being of the planet.

More and more people no longer believe in an "existential climate crisis". They realize that your familiar tale of fear of death is based on overheated computer models. Why do you keep talking about a "climate hell to come"? One of your senior officials even states that "we own the science, and we think the world should know about it, and the (social media) platforms".

Why is the UN ignoring the hard facts that clearly highlight the serious scientific shortcomings of the IPCC assessment reports? Why does the IPCC refuse any open debate on these flaws? Doesn't the UN realize that critical organizations such as CLINTEL now embody more objective scientific knowledge than exists within the IPCC?

More and more people are loudly protesting the spread of the superstition that climate science is fully understood ("The Science is Settled"). This superstition has unfortunately led to legislating totally unnecessary social engineering measures with net zero CO2 (mitigation) targets.

Why doesn't the United Nations want to make the world understand that the mitigation measures it proposes are scientifically absurd, technically unfeasible, economically unaffordable and socially unacceptable?

And why doesn't the UN also want the world to know that CO2 is an essential part of life on earth? More CO2 is essential to make the earth greener. In view of all the facts, more CO2 will bring far more benefits than harm!

More and more people are also wondering why an extremely expensive transition to intermittent renewable energy is being pursued without realizing that this transition causes major economic problems.

Why does the UN not recognize that a reliable energy supply through solar panels and wind turbines is technically impossible and economically unaffordable without the availability of large-scale, low-cost electrical energy storage?

And why doesn't the UN recognize that the massive production of solar and wind energy will create a severe shortage of materials such as copper, cobalt and neodymium?

Your excellence,

Economic development cannot happen without an affordable and reliable energy supply. In the coming decades, we must make full use of affordable indigenous fossil fuels for electricity generation, with an ambitious plan for a network of modern nuclear power plants. Please note that with abundant and affordable energy, the global supply of clean water can also be guaranteed.

Second, the United Nations must make every effort to apply adaptation technologies, in particular to protect against extreme weather events (“risk minimization”) and to produce tailor-made crops (“precision agriculture”).

At your next climate ambition summit, don't keep advocating for a "net zero society". The results of this policy clearly show that it will destroy our economies; billions of people will suffer. Instead, use your next summit to organize an open debate between the world's experts who are in favor and those who are against the continuation of your "net zero" policy. Clintel will be happy to cooperate with you in making this debate happen.

Pending your response, please accept, Madam, Sir, the expression of my best regards,

Gus Berkhout
President of Clintel

https://clintel.org/open-new-years-lett ... -guterres/
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by izentrop » 12/01/23, 22:48

Yeah, your strings are so big that you don't surprise us
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"Climate Intelligence Foundation" (or "Clintel"), based in the Netherlands and founded in 2019 by Guus Berkhout, a retired geophysicist who worked for the oil giant Shell, and by Marcel Crok, who presents himself as a journalist .

Clintel describes itself as an "independent foundation" and describes the signatories of its declaration as "a wide variety of competent scientists". Clintel and its founders regularly broadcast content questioning the climate emergency, or the human origin of climate change, notes the English-language media DeSmog, which has specialized in climate and environmental topics since 2006; and in particular the fight against misinformation in this area.
https://factuel.afp.com/doc.afp.com.32HW8EG
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by Exnihiloest » 06/02/23, 19:16

 
CO₂ has a marked fertilizing effect and its rarity has a very clear limiting effect on vegetation.
As already shown on several occasions, the observed increase in CO₂ concentrations has caused an increase in vegetation cover which, in turn, has cooling effects, locally where it occurs, and local conditions are what really matter for living beings (the authors also observe a slight global cooling effect of -0,018°C per century linked to the increase in CO₂ concentrations).

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-35799-4
"Vegetation change can alter the surface energy balance and subsequently affect the local climate. This biophysical impact has been well studied for cases of afforestation, but the sign and magnitude for persistent greening of the land remains controversial. Based on long-term remote sensing observations, we quantify the unidirectional impact of vegetation greening on surface radiometric temperature over the period 2001-2018. Here we show a global negative temperature response with large spatial and seasonal variability. Snow cover, greening of vegetation and short wave radiation are the main factors of temperature sensitivity by regulating the relative dominance of radiative and non-radiative processes. Combined with the observed greening trend, we find a global cooling of -0.018 K/decade, which slows 4.6 ± 3.2% of global warming. Regionally, this cooling effect can offset 39,4 ± 13,9% and 19,0 ± 8,2% of the corresponding warming in India and China. These results highlight the need to consider this vegetation-related biophysical climate effect when developing local climate adaptation strategies."
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by Exnihiloest » 06/02/23, 19:41

 
Exceptional weather events that were more and more violent and more and more frequent, they told us, the clowns of the media taking up the catastrophism of the climatologists.
And you know what ? Not only does this not happen, but it is the opposite.

On a global scale, the ACE (Cumulative Energy of Tropical Cyclones) data for the year 2022 is about 29% lower than the average for the 30-year period (1991 to 2020).

The same data sources also show that at the global level, the number of cyclones has not increased since the beginning of the measurements (1980), and this is also true for category 3 cyclones.

Source : Colorado State University Department of Atmospheric Sciences (based on data from NOAA's National Hurricane Center).

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Re: The fable of anthropogenic warming and the fight against CO2




by Christophe » 06/02/23, 20:05

And the -80°C felt 48 hours ago in the USA...

Isn't that extreme? CDT?
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