Tension with Russia in Ukraine

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Re: Tension with Russia in Ukraine




by Woof woof » 18/03/23, 08:28

gegyx wrote:Anything. The Russian intervention, it is by understanding a little belatedly that the West was making fun of him
(Cf: Interview with macron who said that minsk2 was obsolete It's factual!)


Let's put the context:
- Russia launched two wars in Chechnya, the first in 1994-1996 and the second in 1999-2009.
The first war in Chechnya began in December 1994, when Russian forces invaded Chechnya to suppress a separatist movement, for the second, the FSB was able to convince of the interest to make it: natural-human-disasters/tension-with-russia-in-ukraine-t17111-6480.html#p527102

- Russia invaded Georgia in August 2008, in response to a conflict between Georgian forces and Russian-backed separatist forces in South Ossetia. The conflict had started several days before, when Georgia launched a military operation to regain control of the region. Russia responded by sending troops to South Ossetia and launching air raids on Georgia.
Russia justified its intervention by invoking the protection of Russian citizens living in South Ossetia. However, observers have suggested that Russia's real motivation was to reassert its influence in the region and prevent Georgia from drawing closer to the West.

- Russia annexed Crimea in 2014, after sending troops to Crimea and holding a referendum on the future of the peninsula.
The crisis in Crimea began in February 2014, when protests erupted in Ukraine, leading to the impeachment of Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych.
Viktor Yanukovych was considered a pro-Russian politician. During his tenure as President of Ukraine, he sought to strengthen economic and political ties with Russia, including signing an economic cooperation agreement with Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan in 2011, and joining the Union Eurasian economy in 2013.
The new Ukrainian authorities have taken steps to get closer to the West, which has angered Russia.

Some consider Russia to be a dictatorship, while others consider the political system to be more authoritarian or semi-authoritarian.

In these 3 conflicts, we see each time countries which want to emancipate themselves from the Soviet past, to emancipate themselves from present-day Russia and mechanically, which want to get closer to the West.
One wonders why ?
Do they have the right to self-determination?

To remain factual, through these 3 conflicts, we continuously observe that the Russian sphere of influence seeks to maintain itself or to extend through arms.

Always to remain factual, it is not Europe, nor the US, nor even Ukraine which took up arms to attack Russia.
Russian paranoia has a good back, honestly who is going to attack a country at the head of 6000 nuclear warheads?

Europe is drowsy by 70 years of peace, chilly at the idea of ​​fighting itself, Putin has understood this well.
We can legitimately be worried and wonder where this desire for Russian expansion, avowed and above all silenced, is going to stop.

So who cares who?
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Re: Tension with Russia in Ukraine




by Remundo » 18/03/23, 08:50

your portrait of Russia is one-sided and burdensome.

This is his weakness!

The Americans extend their sphere of influence 10 to 100 times further than Russia by all possible and imaginable weapons (military, economic, legal).

Besides, without their belligerent and harmful interference in Ukraine, the odious expansionist Russia on its borders would never have gone to war.
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Re: Tension with Russia in Ukraine




by Woof woof » 18/03/23, 09:08

Remundo wrote:your portrait of Russia is one-sided and burdensome.

This is his weakness!

The Americans extend their sphere of influence 10 to 100 times further than Russia by all possible and imaginable weapons (military, economic, legal).

Besides, without their belligerent and harmful interference in Ukraine, the odious expansionist Russia on its borders would never have gone to war.


What's wrong with this portrait of Russia?

OK for US. Does this exonerate Russia from its belligerent behavior?

What belligerent and harmful US interference in Ukraine?
Who is going to attack Russia, a country at the head of 6000 nuclear warheads?

Russia “would never have gone to war”.
Yet she did it 3 times and she is not stingy with false pretenses, just like the US: natural-human-disasters/tension-with-russia-in-ukraine-t17111-6510.html#p527280
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Re: Tension with Russia in Ukraine




by Christophe » 18/03/23, 09:18

Macro wrote:Christophe could maybe tinker with them something...


Ah ah ah, negative my Colonel! I promised myself never to work in the armament...
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Re: Tension with Russia in Ukraine




by Christophe » 18/03/23, 09:22

Macro wrote:Who are the ceusses who were screaming at all costs that vaccinators, health claims, macrons, varrans should be dragged before this ICC.....

The memes who today treat them as puppets....

You're running out of memory...


You didn't understand...neither the USA, nor Russia, nor China (among others) recognize the CPI...and even if the USA recognized it, good luck stopping Putin!

It is therefore a symbolic arrest warrant.

Moreover, Putin certainly deserves it but no less than all the other leaders and high politicians of countries at war...

The genocide in Rwanda, to what seems France had a large responsibility... I'm not talking about the 2nd war in Iraq eh and the US manipulations...

So yes it is a rather puppet court!
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Re: Tension with Russia in Ukraine




by Christophe » 18/03/23, 12:39

Ah ah ah!

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Re: Tension with Russia in Ukraine




by Obamot » 18/03/23, 18:45

Macro wrote:
Christophe wrote:
Uh what are these reported structures?

:cope cage

Do-it-yourself "in a hurry" to compensate for the weakness of the shielding of the turret of the Russian tanks
yes and no, but rather "not completely..." These structures have appeared in particular for the most recent in Syria to fight against the TOWs used by Daesh/HTS.
The fairing is more for the upward trajectories of the Javelins, which then dive into the tank from above. (by the way Christophe, the Spetsnaz whose sacrifice you published, it was there 7 years ago)
But the less convincing is to qualify it as "tinkering in a hurry", the war situations are those during which the Russians remain all kinds of improvements, and the fact that the same structure is found on several tanks, seems demonstrate that they have a find. The structure, moreover, must be equipped with a net that bounces the small projectiles released by drones. For Javelins, the goal is to blow the charge before it damages the tank.

But anyway, the ukros wouldn't even have enough ammunition to do counter-battery fire...
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Re: Tension with Russia in Ukraine




by Obamot » 18/03/23, 19:56

Christophe wrote:It is therefore a symbolic arrest warrant.
I sniffed the thing above, here's what's going around... : Shock: (the situation goes up another notch...)

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some tricks hardly diffused by the mainstream:

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But that was before the ICC episode, since ouch:

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ouch ouch, possible missiles on Poland?

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Disrespect on both sides?

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there is no legal basis to arrest Putin

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Neither America, nor Russia, nor China recognizes the International Criminal Court in The Hague, so this court has no jurisdiction when it comes to those countries. Charges can only be brought against citizens of countries that have signed the agreement, so this is just a charade.

“If we talk about war crimes in these territories, we should have started from 2014 and everything that happened to the people of Donbass”.

Attorney Tapushkovich draws a parallel with the United States, adding that unlike this situation, politically constructed against Russia, in the case of America, there was indeed evidence of war crimes in the Middle East: "War crimes were in all wars caused by America, and there can be no question of asking the question of the responsibility of even ordinary soldiers and officers, let alone those who started wars and were responsible for the commandment "
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Re: Tension with Russia in Ukraine




by Christophe » 18/03/23, 20:31

We're not short-sighted, can you take screenshots with a slightly smaller font please? THANKS..
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Re: Tension with Russia in Ukraine




by Obamot » 18/03/23, 21:09

Sorry, given the saturation of the fo-fo in c..., I don't have time to do any crazy "layout"(*)

Putin's reactions/actions?
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PS: for the size of the .jpegs, they make a small column at the origin (newspaper type "the world") the problem is that there is this phpBB function which adjusts automatically. the width of the illustrations to the width of the post, and that you must have been active one day... I must be one of the few who get around the problem (sometimes when I can) by putting a long white banner to the right of the illustration, as you have already seen me do (which reframes a bit, but not the troll :) ) : Arrowd:

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...and there at the moment, Bein is rather fed up with reframing Izy-gotto 256 times on the same theme,
Nah it's rather Reset-the bowl and I'm not the only one : Mrgreen:
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