Tension with Russia in Ukraine

[Remundo]

the cost of manufacturing such equipment is directly related to the cost of labor in the place where it is produced

The main costs of manufacturing a tank are material costs (X0 tons of steel) + on-board electronics/technology costs.

A conventional tank is a rustic machine, a kind of big bulldozer that carries a gun turret.

"Modern" tanks carry various technologies, but as Christophe said, if 1 modern tank is targeted by 5 conventional tanks, it will surely knock out less than five...

[Christophe]

Uh there is still "a little" machining, assembly, welding etc etc Remundo...

The M1A1 and the T80 are strictly of the same generation initially... there may be "software" upgrades on both sides... but not sure that the USA is releasing their latest technological versions into the wild with a risk of being captured by the Russians! Even though they probably already know everything...

Same for leopard 2...

The Leclerc is a more modern one...but its ammunition, gun and armor are no better than those of the other 2...

If you think that a slightly more modern tank can destroy 5 tanks of design just 10 years older (outside the world war period) I advise you to install and spend a few hours on world of tank, it's free …

The T34 was older than most panzers in Kursk…(and it is even still used in the world unlike the panzers of the time which nevertheless scared everyone…)

For the quantities produced and technical details of each of these 4 tanks see wiki…

Here I found this about the French flagship:

In 2016, the availability rate rose to 61%. Out of 241 Leclerc tanks in service, only 147 tanks are available, for a cost of maintenance in operational condition of around €20 per month

[Remundo]

what is % of MO cost in automotive industry?

[Christophe]

All HR? This shouldn't be negligible...

Don't forget what money is...there's the answer on the forum…well, let’s not make a cheese out of it…

What counts are the number of tanks on the battlefield and Russia wins on this point…(at least in deployable potential)…

Am sure she has made thousands of them for 1 year...

On the other hand, it is important not to say that the Ukrainians are mean:

[Remundo]

but what a bunch of set idiots...

We have 200 tanks, Russia 10...

And we philosophize about conquering the Crimea and "derussifying" it.

And then by what right?

[Obamot]

For international law. Let's put the church back in the middle of the village: Merkel's confession changes everything.

You have to call a cat a cat
A plot a plot

[gegyx]

Offers :

An alert reader from Poland sent us a video showing a propaganda poster from the Polish Ministry of Defense. It reads: “Rise up to defend the true Polish lands. Become a Leopard tanker. Protect Poland in Ukraine."

Ideologically, there are no problems with this agitation. The Polish government did not hide its real interests for long in the conflict in Ukraine and uses all forms of propaganda so that the citizens do not forget it: there, a little to the east, are dear to the heart of the earth .

[gegyx]

Bakhmut, it's too hard, for western "tough guys"

The American PMC "Mozart" withdraws from Bakhmut and leaves Ukraine.

https://avia.pro/news/amerikanskaya-chv ... -i-ukrainu

[Obamot]

It looks like a Hara Kiri... How clever....!


In any case, it stinks of crisis...

But hey, he said: "the show must go on"...!

Tolstoy said the Russians were petrified with fear



And so they left Bakhmut...

[Obamot]

Putsch in sight Ukraine? Zelensky smells of fir...
Cascading resignations in kyiv: Arestovych is gone!
Illegal forced mob, kidnappings: a real Gestapo!
The supremacy of the Russian interconnected system of all available means on the battlefield remains unmatched (RUK Strike Reconnaissance Complex)
And the tanks for Ukraine? Too late. Probably a stab in the water.

Update on the situation in Ukraine:
WW3 'cold'?

Jacques Baud wants to be nuanced (and he is no doubt right... but kyiv, Poland (and all of the West?) in their extremism will not allow themselves to be led towards capitulation! It is Russia that "they want to see on their knees, not themselves. As a result, this stigmatization leaves a real window of progress for Russia to consolidate its nibbling... Alas for the Ukrainians sacrificed en masse..

For the moment the old Europe does not dominate (even U-VDL) damage, the confessions of Merkel were not evoked: let us demand justice!