Tension with Russia in Ukraine

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Re: Tension with Russia in Ukraine




by Obamot » 14/02/22, 15:15

Christophe wrote:There you go... when you have your rules, leading an army is a bit complicated:

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Result of the mediocracy parity society...

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no laughing : Cheesy:
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Re: Tension with Russia in Ukraine




by Christophe » 14/02/22, 15:19

Obamot wrote:no laughing : Cheesy:


Too late, you screwed me there!! PTDR!!
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Re: Tension with Russia in Ukraine




by gegyx » 14/02/22, 15:28

The triggering ? Only a serious attack on Dombass with the death of Russian citizens (freshly naturalized)


In immediate response, just a rapid annihilation of Ukrainian strategic points and arms depots, Western, control over Donetsk and Dombass and referendum at the key, and if possible the surroundings which would make it possible to reach Crimea and if possible the northern border with Mariupol, and in order to connect all their border and then fully recover the Sea of ​​Azov.

But the inhabitants will be a heavy burden, economically.
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Re: Tension with Russia in Ukraine




by Obamot » 14/02/22, 15:39

... and an offer to the countries of the former Warsaw Pact, (which should be updated for the occasion...), to ask them nicely if they would not like to reintegrate it "smoothly" ( : Mrgreen: )

After all, there are many attempts to bring a piece of Russia into NATO...!

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by Remundo » 14/02/22, 17:22

Remundo wrote:
Exnihiloest wrote:That's probably why the Russians are massing troops on their border with Ukraine. They fear being invaded by Americanized Ukrainians... : roll:

That's just my opinion...here it is

I think the Russians are warning the Americans: if NATO gets into Ukraine, we invade, minima by the Dombass.

All it takes is for NATO to stop wanting to install missile bases and ramps on Russia's doorstep for everything to go better.

I recall in passing that Ukraine is the historic cradle of Russian civilization. Moscow has some legitimacy in wanting to keep Ukraine in its sphere of influence, a little more than the American imperialists and dividers of Europe...

Little video that sets the scene for you from the first 2 minutes and confirms my interpretation.



and it is Le Monde who publishes it! Alright, it's stremedroate compared to LFI. :P
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Re: Tension with Russia in Ukraine




by Obamot » 15/02/22, 03:56

How to explain it?

Even if I don't really believe in it, we have to make some assumptions....
What if the Russians knew about a secret acceleration of Ukraine's NATO integration process?

And if the Russians had glimpsed the slippage towards a policy of "fait accompli" like the one that failed with the attempt to generalize the "security pass" to all EU member countries? (It was close to succeeding, but the prospect of being drawn into a looming war may have precipitated the early withdrawal of several countries from this masquerade of pseudo “health crisis”? With rigged balance sheets and a severity threshold justifying it: almost non-existent...) The “famous” major reason for the tipping that I was looking for...)

PASS, which by the way, would have been nothing more than a tool to lead the people towards a kind of tacit PASS towards an "accelerated globalization", with the key to reinforced meddling and the tacit acceptance of 'supranational control over populations.... Alibi found everything to maintain a permanent security pass...? It would correspond well with NATO's risky way of doing things: and in this case, would the “Great Reset” of Davos be connected to the Organization? There it would become clearer, with an alibi of this type, the planet could be set on fire and bloodied... To plunder the last resources!

And if the PASS had only been a general rehearsal, a way of testing the reaction of the people to a new form of confiscation of power outside any (really) political agenda.

Bah yes, as long as you are in imposture, you might as well confiscate the legitimate aspiration of the peoples to their autonomy to the end, since it would be due to so few things, since all these peoples would already be controlling themselves via the cultural models in place!

And if the Russians had understood this system of Trojan horse, of tacit admission of the populations, without vote, without democratic process, towards a new system of control, with total enslavement of the parliamentary chambers and safeguards (Senate, Constitutional Council , etc.)

What if Ukraine was an integral part of this secret agenda? What if the Russians knew everything...?

Using the alibi of Ukraine, could the West hope to force Russia's hand by bringing Ukraine “peacefully” and by surprise into NATO?

I may be lost in guesswork, but Russia keeps moving.

Movement of Russian military aircraft on their territory : Arrowd:

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Russians successfully testing their electronic warfare superiority again : Arrowd:

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Re: Tension with Russia in Ukraine




by Christophe » 15/02/22, 09:24

But where does he get all this data???

Well I think it sucks, war seems inevitable to me...the question today is: will it remain local or will there be an international escalation?

Strange the video of the world didn't talk so much about gas...
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Re: Tension with Russia in Ukraine




by Obamot » 15/02/22, 10:06

I simply reactivated my accounts from the time of the Russian intervention in the Mediterranean!

It would get serious if the aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov went back to sea.
This could mean that a lasting conflict would set in...

It was planned to be ready to be operational in 2022... Completely “modernized”.
http://www.opex360.com/2020/12/04/une-s ... r-en-2022/

The situation in Ukraine, : Arrowd: not really the imminence of an invasion (according to the news of observations of the ground)

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I watched all the Russian military activities on the Ukrainian border, so far it's not more than skirmishes... It's increased for 15 days, but it has nothing to do with the operations in Syria at the height of the conflict...

On the plan, by zooming in, we see above all posturing announcements in Kiev.
It seems that there would have been massive activities on the side of Kursk.

Here is a convoy (nothing very high-tech in this one, no S300 or S400)



There would be S400s in Crimea, but that dates from 4 years ago... And in Belarus.
However, these would not be attack systems but anti-missile defense systems...

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Re: Tension with Russia in Ukraine




by Christophe » 15/02/22, 12:26

Change of course!! (or military strategy?)

Ukraine: Russia confirms the start of a military withdrawal (direct)

The Kremlin evokes a “normal process” and denounces Western “hysteria” over a supposed imminent invasion of Ukraine by Moscow.




https://www.lesoir.be/424214/article/20 ... ire-direct
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Re: Tension with Russia in Ukraine




by Rajqawee » 15/02/22, 13:59

We are waiting for the communication from the Elysée Palace to tell us that it is thanks to Macron and the vaccination pass.
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