New EgyptAir plane crash: how far will blackmail?

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by Gaston » 01/06/16, 15:36

The black boxes would be "spotted" ... (subject to denial ... : Mrgreen: )

AFP wrote :The signal detected by the French Navy is indeed that of one of the black boxes of the Paris-Cairo flight of EgyptAir which was damaged on May 19 in the Mediterranean, announced Tuesday the French Bureau of Investigation and Analysis ( BEA).

"The signal from a beacon from a flight recorder could be detected by the equipment of the Alseamar company deployed on the French Navy building Laplace", indicated in a press release the director of the BEA Rémi Jouty, after the announcement by the Egyptian authorities of the detection by a French Navy vessel of "signals probably emanating" from one of the two black boxes of the EgyptAir A320.
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by Obamot » 01/06/16, 15:53

It's one in two, 50% of the job, don't exaggerate Gaston (so it'll be -0,5 info if they deny it) : Mrgreen:

The Egyptian Ministry of Petroleum reportedly sent there "a submarine capable of descending to 3.000 meters " to locate the black boxes ...

https://fr.sputniknews.com/international/201605221025203988-sous-marin-recherche-boites-noires-airbus-egyptien/

It was 3 days after the crash.
We haven't heard much about it, you will tell me that at -3 m we can shout loudly: it's Cousteau, the world of "silence" ... :) : Cry:
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by Obamot » 01/06/16, 18:51

PS: like the fact, why the 'pings' of only one of the two, the second could not sink ten meters into the ground ... especially since they are located in the tail of the plane, and once in the water their fall is badly slowed! There I cough ... : Shock:
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by Gaston » 02/06/16, 10:12

Obamot wrote:PS: like the fact, why the 'pings' of only one of the two, the second could not sink ten meters into the ground ... especially since they are located in the tail of the plane, and once in the water their fall is badly slowed! There I cough ... : Shock:
If the plane arrived in one piece in the water, you're right.
On the other hand, if it has broken up in the air, the debris can be spread over several kilometers at the bottom of the sea ...

In addition, it is possible that the second box is damaged and does not emit ...
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by Obamot » 02/06/16, 10:52

Everything is possible eh ... We will see the state of the tail of the plane (if we will see it) who will live will see (or will not see) but if the other was miles away (between two disclaimers : Lol: ) .... from the surface it's already 3km, so 4, 5 or 6, it's routine ... and to say that now Airbus is thinking of making the black boxes "ejectable before impact"! Very well ... 10, 20, 40 km further?

Anyway this latest news (below) relaunches the thesis of the accident, because here it is concrete (finally 3 real or false additional alerts - will have to see what Airbus says - but it's worrying ):

Nouvel Observateur, Renaud Février, on June 02, 2016 at 08:11 am wrote:
EgyptAir flight crash:
Airbus A320 has issued several alerts
within 24 hours before the crash


According to information from France 3, the aircraft should even have turned around and landed in emergency at least three times.

This is an element that could be essential in the investigation into the crash of the EgyptAir flight on May 19. According to "France 3"And"Le Parisien", three alerts were recorded by the aircraft's real-time maintenance status monitoring system, the Acars system (Aircraft Communication Addressing and Reporting System), which allows messages to be transmitted to maintenance in mid-flight of a plane heading for his airline.

"Le Parisien"evokes in particular"smoke released during flights prior to tragedy". We remember that similar messages reported smoke in the toilets and in the avionics compartment, located under the cockpit, in the minutes before the Airbus A320 crash.

"This type of aircraft is equipped with several optical detectors responsible for capturing any smoke emissions and automatically transmits them to the Acars system to which they are connected.", explains an airport source on a daily basis.

According to information from "France 3"the aircraft should have even turned around and landed in an emergency at least three times in the 24 hours preceding the crash. Each time, the warning systems were activated"shortly after takeoff", indicates the site of the chain, resulting"each time a technical check on the ground which turned out to be negative since the aircraft was able to take off".

"Le Parisien"specifies that these alerts took place in Asmara, Eritrea, Tunis, Tunisia, and from Cairo, Egypt.

"False alarms"?
"Sometimes these detectors are disturbed by humidity or by the vapor of the air conditioning on board overheated cabins", explains to"Le Parisien"its airport source.

"It is a bit like if a warning light comes on on your car dashboard without seeing any proven incident. Like a warning system malfunction", also points out a technician in the columns of the daily newspaper.

"But these devices have been significantly improved in recent times so as not to go off and issue false false alerts", adds the daily airport source.

The Acars system "rarely gets it wrong"confirms a pilot, always at"Le Parisien".

In any event, the crew did not report any incidents on the aircraft during their last stopover in Paris, which lasted only one hour and seven minutes.

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by Obamot » 02/06/16, 14:53

PS: the question which must then worry "the authorized circles" is what could have triggered the smoke alarms, not been detected on the ground during the maintenance stops, then resume, then disappear again without showing any disturbance or noticeable failure during flights or on the ground (or during critical phases: takeoff / landing), without emitting smoke felt by the crew or passengers, then suddenly being able to lead to the major failure leading to a crash! If so, it's very worrying for all planes in flight ... And obviously we can hardly believe it.
(Too bad we don't have an echo of the second black box!)
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by Obamot » 02/06/16, 16:22

On the France 3 video >>> a former captain said the same, unthinkable that the plane had landed 3 times urgently in 24 hours (before the crash), without the crew not having reported anything, without having detected , notified of the presence of smoke! Because according to some sources, the origin of the alerts came from the same area (as those published by ACARS 00 minutes before the crash) is located towards the nose of the aircraft. Thick mystery.

Euronews: June 2, 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWbK6rkafCs
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by Obamot » 02/06/16, 21:24

New denial of Egypt!

M6info, June 2, 2016 wrote:EgyptAir crash:

Communication war between France and Egypt

- Cairo would also refuse to collaborate with French investigators.

- Contacts between French and Egyptian investigators are very difficult.

- According to our information, the Egyptians would have the details of the sequence of these alerts [ACARS] but would refuse for the moment to say more to French investigators on this point.

- This Thursday morning, Cairo also denied the information published this morning by the French press: “It is not true, as some French media have said, that Acars messages signaling the presence of smoke were sent three successive times during the flights of the plane to Asmara in Eritrea, and Tunis and on its departure from cairo”Said the Egyptian investigator.

Source: https://m6info.yahoo.com/crash-egyptair ... html?nhp=1

Daesh arms dealer on board !?

According to Lebanese media Al Manar who quotes Nilnet:
"One of the passengers was an arms dealer responsible for buying French weapons for Saudi Arabia and also supplying weapons to the Daesh terrorists"

This would perhaps explain the reason for the presence of the 3 security guards in this flight
Source: http://french.almanar.com.lb/adetails.php?eid=306546&frid=18&seccatid=41&cid=18&fromval=1

Nilnet published in Al Manar 02-06-2016 wrote:
Nilnet's revelations about EgyptAir plane crash

An Egyptian judicial official has revealed authentic information on the reason for the crash of an Egyptian airliner departing from Paris to Egypt.

According to the Egyptian site Nilnet,

An Egyptian judicial official has just revealed exact information on the reason for the crash of the plane of EgyptAir.

« The main reason for the aircraft's fall was an explosion which occurred inside the aircraft. This theory was reinforced after the announcement of the existence of smoke inside the aircraft cabin before it disappeared from the radars, especially since the absence of any technical failure had been confirmed before the plane's departure in Paris».

And to continue:
- " That said, Egyptian officials have asked the French to provide accurate information about the people on the plane. One of the passengers was called Farsan Al-Ezzeh. He was in constant contact with Salman Ben Abdelaziz Ben Salman Ben Mohammed, responsible for buying French weapons for Saudi Arabia and supplying weapons to Daesh terrorists »

Quoting experts, Nilnet claims that the plane was destroyed in order to destroy the contracts signed by Saudi Arabia, providing for the shipment of weapons to Daesh.

The crash of this plane could also constitute an alert on the part of Saudi Arabia intended for the Egyptian officials so that the latter do not act in a manner contrary to its wishes.
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by Arnaud M » 03/06/16, 10:57

While plans are being made on the comet, that everyone agrees not to talk about EMP but does not want to take the wrongs, that the media lie to us, the planes continue to fall:
02/06/2016
fighter plane crash in Colorado Spring
plane crash in Vendée
Emergency landing in the USA
31/05/2016 - Emergency landing in Latvia.
29/05/2016 - New IT failure in Paris cutting part of French rail traffic all morning.
28/05/2016 - 2 grilled transformers in Paris deprive the whole world of Roland Garros on TV for several hours.
27/05/2016
an airliner with its engine catching fire on takeoff in Tokyo.
Part of France blocked at train level by an electronic failure.
26/05/2016 - crash of 2 fighter planes in North Carolina.
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by Arnaud M » 03/06/16, 10:59

We have passed the time of inexplicable crash waves: the EMPs are now constant and are increasing.
See this beautiful video of EMP surrounded by lightnings in a thunderstorm that surround the EM column, rising lightnings that last 20 seconds
https://www.facebook.com/HerzogWeather/ ... 713909647/
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