Fires in Australia were preventable

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Re: Fires in Australia were preventable




by GuyGadebois » 05/02/20, 21:41

Christophe wrote:It's NOT the subject at all Guy!

You're sure?
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Re: Fires in Australia were preventable




by plasmanu » 05/02/20, 21:53

What is certain is that the fish will not have enough to pay for the water of the rivers. If you can call it rivers. And the poor fish had already died per million by suffocation long before the fires (one million in the Darling River in January 2019)
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by izentrop » 03/03/20, 14:00

A documentary on mega fires which shows that the method of the aborigines, praised at the beginning of the subject, is not "the solution".
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by GuyGadebois » 03/03/20, 14:03

izentrop wrote:A documentary on mega fires that shows that the aboriginal method, touted at the beginning of the subject, is not the best solution

It's just a solution that has avoided mega fires for thousands of years. The documentary does not speak once about the aboriginal method or even about the fires in Australia. Another off topic of Izy and a personal attack, by the way ... Without even mentioning the contempt for indigenous peoples, contempt which was expressed from the first page of the topic: "The aborigines have certainly succumbed to comfort like everything the world and these firewall management techniques are expensive today. "
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by izentrop » 03/03/20, 14:09

GuyGadebois wrote:It's just a solution that has avoided mega fires for thousands of years. Another off topic of Izy and a personal attack, by the way ...
except for the exceptional conditions which have reigned in recent years and which will multiply.

Management must be smarter ... Fires caused should not be the only method, to avoid stupidly throwing additional CO2 into the atmosphere.
The documentary does not speak once of the method of the aborigines
It's because you haven't watched it.
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by GuyGadebois » 03/03/20, 14:13

izentrop wrote:
GuyGadebois wrote:It's just a solution that has avoided mega fires for thousands of years. Another off topic of Izy and a personal attack, by the way ...
except for the exceptional conditions which have reigned in recent years and which will multiply.

Where you have once again caught NOTHING is that the conditions have become exceptional BECAUSE precisely, the Aborigines no longer had control over forest management and that the Westerners applied their methods which are totally unsuitable for this continent.
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by GuyGadebois » 03/03/20, 15:53

izentrop wrote:It's because you haven't watched it.

Or? What minute? Where did you see an aboriginal?
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by ABC2019 » 03/03/20, 17:40

izentrop wrote: Management must be smarter ... Fires caused should not be the only method, to avoid stupidly throwing additional CO2 into the atmosphere.


You did not understand that in steady state, fires do not release CO2 into the atmosphere, they only re-release the one that was captured a few years ago, but on average the balance is zero?

osf du CO2, what you need to do is avoid catastrophic fires that cause damage to animals, people and structures! that's just what the aborigines had understood for millennia!
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Re: Fires in Australia were preventable




by Christophe » 03/03/20, 18:22

ABC2019 wrote:You did not understand that in steady state, fires do not release CO2 into the atmosphere, they only re-release the one that was captured a few years ago, but on average the balance is zero?


Quite if not as much to say that heating with wood rejects CO2 (I can already hear the nitpickers: yes it releases a little indirectly ... just like fossil fuels and nuclear for that matter!)

I got angry earlier in this subject because "big" sites including Futura anti (for this blow) Science relayed this abject fake which must have made some tankers hard or at least have a good laugh !!!
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Re: Fires in Australia were preventable




by Ahmed » 03/03/20, 22:41

Yeah ... I wonder if the reasoning is not more zero than the balance sheet? On paper it is true, but dynamically it is screwed up ... Christophe, you surrender to purely accounting logics ...
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