Counterproductive environmental measures

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Re: Counterproductive environmental measures




by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 16/06/21, 23:12

Exnihiloest wrote:GuyGadebois has just told us that he is "faux"that a number of harmful pesticides be authorized.
GuyGadebois is wrong or has lied to us, as I have demonstrated.

You lie: "True but False." That it is written. CQFD
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by Obamot » 17/06/21, 00:52

Exnihiloest wrote:
Obamot wrote:Do you only understand that ORGANIC farmers (who have the choice) will not take the risk of destroying earthworms with Bordeaux bouille, since they are the ones who do all the work!

You are in full romance. Organic farmers are not philanthropists.
If you think earthworms will still count when apple aphids ravage the fruit trees of an organic farmer, you stick your finger up to the elbow.
Pesticides are authorized because they are claimed by organic farming..
I wouldn't want to be categorical (and it would be good to ask Did to be sure), but:

A) First, bordelaiss bouille is not a pesticide but a fungicide. Then..
B) In this case it would be to the detriment of productivity, because “favorable” fungi are all that we are looking for in “BIO” soil (the mycelium).
C) So in this case we are not going to use fungicides ... or it is the case of those who plow ...
D) But the problem is that they no longer plow as long as we understand that it is no longer necessary to plow,
E) Suddenly, they therefore need both:
=> 1) earthworms to ensure the supply of oxygen (and avoid fungi that require the use of fungicides) and
=> 2) mycelium to have a good yield (therefore no fungicides) ... (I see it like that without being too wrong)

... and if so, you in this case, you find yourself in a dead end with your argument ... : Wink:
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by Janic » 17/06/21, 08:46

and exnunuche who repeats the lessons of BIG CHIMIE well learned by heart when he has never been in the field, with real organic farmers for decades. In fact, there is on the one hand the theory of the poison merchants and the practical reality on the ground. However, and he knows it very well, the transition from all chemical to organic requires significant work both on the land and in the minds to eliminate the residual products previously widespread, hence the transition periods of 3/5 years where production are not classified as true organic and must not (in theory, at least before the legislation) be sold in organic circuits.
The other aspect that he pretends to ignore is that the world has changed in almost a century and that chemistry has invaded everything by claiming to be without risk or danger to life (to the delight of BIG CHIMIE ) and gradually people realize that the bride was too beautiful, and that she has become an old witch with a poisoned apple.
But if there is a change for more rustic and resistant varieties, it is to avoid even the products authorized by the legislation since there is no longer any need and our funny nunuche is careful not to underline it. Obviously he will not get his 500 euro pumps dirty on the dirty soil of the fields
Finally! Isn't there such a high yield, says the service joke ?! On the one hand this is incorrect (it was true at the start of organic farming on soils impoverished by previous crops) and then the yields increased when the soil came back to life, while the chemical yields decreased on their own. dead soil from dead home.
This is why on a living soil with resistant varieties, all these products authorized by the legislation no longer become necessary or very occasional.
For the record, the organic winegrower who refused to treat his vines threatened by flavescence dorée and where he won his case and, if he had yielded, the exnullards would have claimed victory according to which the organic is very happy to have their precious chemicals (and we find here the same problem as for the covid and their precious vaccines useless for more than 90% of the populations!).
Fortunately, the tide is turning against BIG CHIMIE and consumers are increasingly coming out of their lethargy and blind confidence in the cropping system imposed by BC and other cropping methods are gradually replacing it to the delight of consumers who demand them more and more. more, even if they are not perfect.
and the rearguard fighter, that you are, who clings to his lying illusions when you only have to open your eyes to find that his cranial jams no longer work
The processors have understood it well by advertising that they have removed such and such a chemical from their food, small organic stores are being replaced by large mini-markets, including in medium-sized towns, which underlines that consumers make no mistake about it! families favor organic meals in schools, etc ... which is always better than the usual industrial shit that you defend to the detriment of people's health !. : Evil: : Evil:
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Re: Counterproductive environmental measures




by Exnihiloest » 17/06/21, 20:07

Janic wrote:and exnunuche who repeats the lessons of BIG CHIMIE ...


Big pharma, big chemistry, nobody gives up when it comes to their health, or to save their organic business because insects or diseases proliferate.
Your clichés and your creeds have no interest, they do not correspond to any reality.
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Re: Counterproductive environmental measures




by Exnihiloest » 04/07/21, 20:41

 
"Feeding the land between two cultures is what peasants have been doing for millennia. But these practices are now threatened by agricultural methanization.

https://lejournalminimal.fr/confisquer- ... ourriture/

Today, in the name of the ecological transition, we are withdrawing food from plants. Are we crazy? Formerly between two cultures to feed humans, we interposed one to feed Nature! It was the intercropping which allowed the peasants, with the manures and the recycling of all organic matter, rotations and fallows, to protect and enhance their land."

Those who complain today about anaerobic digestion are the same people who are at the origin of the "ecological transition" which puts it in place, the ecologists! : roll:
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by Janic » 04/07/21, 21:16

Janic wrote:
and exnunuche who repeats the lessons of BIG CHIMIE ...
Big pharma, big chemistry, nobody gives up when it comes to their health, or to save their organic business because insects or diseases proliferate.
only when people have been conditioned and locked into systems they don't know how to get out of.
Your clichés and your creeds have no interest, they do not correspond to any reality.
this is my coconut, repeat over and over your lesson well learned with your employers in the chemistry, but above all do not take the risk of dirtying your pumps in the soil of real organic products for decades which no longer need your poisons.
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 04/07/21, 21:21

Exnihiloest wrote:Those who complain today about anaerobic digestion are the same people who are at the origin of the "ecological transition" which puts it in place, the ecologists! : roll:

And in French, what does that mean? Or more precisely, "what do you mean by that"? Because it seems to me that you are trying to tell us something ...
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Re: Counterproductive environmental measures




by Exnihiloest » 04/07/21, 22:26

I do not speak to imbeciles, especially in bad faith, and the others will have understood.
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by Exnihiloest » 04/07/21, 22:33

but I like to scold them. So let's say it clearly:

the ecological transition put in place by the government, which encourages anaerobic digestion, has been put in place under pressure from environmental lobbies, both the lobbies of green ideologists and green industrialists who recover them.
The former therefore receive in the face the results of their ill-inspired activism, while the latter will feel.
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Re: Counterproductive environmental measures




by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 04/07/21, 22:56

Well done, you "discover" who really holds the power and who always pulls the chestnuts out of the fire. What a scoop!

Ps: If for you "tancer" refers to "clearly state", that says a lot about your personality which never ceases to make me puke.
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