Dark Water, or how industrialists poison us with water

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Re: Dark Water, where industrialists poison us




by GuyGadebois » 03/03/20, 13:45

Christophe wrote:... and we are surprised that certain cancers explode in the statistics!

You're kidding?
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Re: Dark Water, where industrialists poison us




by Christophe » 03/03/20, 13:47

Let them do what they want ...

Everyone is free after all!

Suddenly as I have more teflon or aluminum bin I can drink more at iso-risk !!

If that is not a concrete argument! : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:
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Re: Dark Water, where industrialists poison us




by izentrop » 03/03/20, 13:51

GuyGadebois wrote:
izentrop wrote:
GuyGadebois wrote:But what relationship between ...
The absurdity of a baseless accusation.
So you deny the problem of PFOA and Teflon?
No more than the danger of water outside normal use. : Lol:
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by GuyGadebois » 03/03/20, 13:54

izentrop wrote:
GuyGadebois wrote:
izentrop wrote:The absurdity of a baseless accusation.
So you deny the problem of PFOA and Teflon?
No more than the danger of water outside normal use. : Lol:

So all of these cancers, all of these trials, all of these fines and the final ban on PFOA in July 2020, is that a sham?
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by izentrop » 03/03/20, 14:42

GuyGadebois wrote:So all of these cancers, all of these trials, all of these fines and the final ban on PFOA in July 2020, is that a sham?
Yes more or less.
The French Health Security Agency (AFSSA) made a report in 2009. According to it and based on the available data, consumer exposure related to the use of non-stick pans is 600 times less than the tolerable daily intake. Even today, there are still many debates around the possible danger of PFOA.

Whatever evening, in 2005, the United States classified PFOA in toxic products with carcinogenic effects and it has been banned in France since 2015. It should be expected that this is also the case in Europe.

So should you choose a stone pan with or without PFOA?
The question arises more and more and it must be recognized, the various studies carried out do not help us much. So we are brave but when it comes to health a lot less. So we asked ourselves a lot of questions and we did a lot of research on the subject.

PFOA is toxic when you heat your pan to over 230 ° C or when it is damaged or even very damaged. So what I chose to do is very simple. We keep our old stoves to cook our food over low heat.
On that if you forgot your stove on the fire, your better to change PFOA or not.
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by GuyGadebois » 03/03/20, 15:09

izentrop wrote:PFOA is toxic when you heat your pan to over 230 ° C or when it is damaged or even very damaged. So what I chose to do is very simple. We keep our old stoves to cook our food over low heat. On that if you forgot your stove on the fire, your better to change PFOA or not.

1: DuPont has accumulated C8 in uncontrolled landfills that have contaminated, poisoned and killed entire populations. It continues today.
2: DuPont has released thousands of tonnes of C8 via its chimneys, lastingly polluting the air, the soil, contaminating animals and people.
3: DuPont knowingly poisoned "a number" of its workers by adding C8 to their cigarettes in order to measure its effects.
4: DuPont knowingly poisoned its employees working on the "Teflon" line.
5: DuPont knew the toxicity of C8 long before the scandal broke out. 1961 for animals, 1982 for humans.
6: DuPont bribed certain people in order to raise the permissible critical threshold for water contamination.
7: DuPont has always denied the harmful effects in humans: Various cancer, birth defects, infertility, liver damage, cardiovascular diseases.
8: DuPont knew because 3M knew and even gave up the use of this product. This shows the degree of cynicism of these people there.
These are FACTS.

Afterwards, most people ignore that a pan can release C8 when it is heated too much (no need to forget it on the fire), ignore that you can reach and exceed a temperature of 230 ° very easily, ignore the C8 toxicity, ignore that they must change their utensils regularly. People do not know that they are found in fire fighting foams, certain boxes, adhesives, and so on ... in fact there are EVERYWHERE!

When at AFSSA, you know that they are constantly lying, we have demonstrated this several times ... Téfal is still a big employer!

Critical analysis of the AFSA report:
The conclusion of this opinion leads to minimizing the health impact of contamination by PFOA and other perfluorinated compounds. Ingestion is an important route, but other sources of exposure exist which pleads for the expertise to be conducted not by AFSSA alone, but in an interagency mode not only for PFOA, but for all perfluorinated.
http://www.reseau-environnement-sante.f ... pfoa-1.pdf
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Re: Dark Water, where industrialists poison us




by Christophe » 03/03/20, 16:44

izentrop wrote:On that if you forgot your stove on the fire, your better to change PFOA or not.


Is that so? How would a stainless steel or cast iron skillet be good to change in the event of overheating?

Except possible distortion (for induction) I see no valid reason!
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by GuyGadebois » 03/03/20, 17:25

Christophe wrote:
izentrop wrote:On that if you forgot your stove on the fire, your better to change PFOA or not.


Is that so? How would a stainless steel or cast iron skillet be good to change in the event of overheating?

Except possible distortion (for induction) I see no valid reason!

It makes sense!
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Re: Dark Water, where industrialists poison us




by izentrop » 03/03/20, 21:52

You do as you want, a non-stick pan is very practical, a mold too. If you start to be afraid of a probable 2B carcinogen, you usually die of something else. : Cheesy:
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Re: Dark Water, where industrialists poison us




by GuyGadebois » 03/03/20, 22:46

izentrop wrote:You do as you want, a non-stick pan is very practical, a mold too. If you start to be afraid of a probable 2B carcinogen, you usually die of something else. : Cheesy:

Go eat some Cesium, you will die of something else. : roll:
The subject is "Dark Water, or how the industrialists poison us", not "How I am going to die of something else" by Izy.
The subject is "I'm dying, I don't know why" with its sequel "I know why mom died", followed by "My little brother is deformed", followed by "Take the sorrel and keep on dying".
The subject is not "The absurdity of an unfounded accusation", nor its sequel "No more dangerous than water outside normal use", nor its sequel "All these cancers, all these trials, all these fines and the final ban on PFOA in July 2020 is more or less a pipe dream ".
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