Coronavirus, who or what and why? What origin?

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by Obamot » 06/01/21, 21:07

Either it has been detected, but shhhhh!
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by Obamot » 08/01/21, 02:06

Thanks to a new study by scientists, the CDC-US finally forced to admit lip service that the virus circulated in the United States before China. There had previously been cases of people presumed to have died there from the flu in October, but tested positive for the postmortem virus, but then the CDC had classified all info as “defense secret”. there other cases emerge, which without wanting to advance me, leaves a hope that one day we will know the truth of the origin of the virus, since new ramifications will not fail to be established in the phylogenetic tree ...

An American study reveals:
Signs of coronavirus in the US before the appearance in China

Blood samples taken from nine states before Wuhan case reported have tested positive for pathogen antibodies, says US CDC
Findings indicate infections may have occurred in the western US earlier than previously thought, scientists say


The United States has supplemented research in Italy and France which indicates that the coronavirus may have circulated among populations in a number of countries before it was identified in China and triggered a pandemic.
Scientists from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said on Monday that testing of blood samples taken in the United States from December 13 of last year revealed the presence of antibodies to the Covid-19 virus, known as Sars-Cov-2.
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science ... a-outbreak


It's crazy all these theories ex nihilo, assembled on the basis of a phylogenetic tree - revealed incomplete on numerous occasions - and yet presented as “a primary truth”Without hesitation from the start, even though the virus had previously manifested its presence in several Western countries, which had accused China (probably wrongly?) And which are being questioned again, without the mainstream press being aware of it. more interested in it ...

It could very well be that the Chinese scientist on the run in the West, wrongly accused her country for political and non-scientific reasons. It will also be necessary to bring out old hypotheses of the drawers ...
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by VetusLignum » 08/01/21, 11:02

Obamot wrote:Scientists from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said on Monday that testing of blood samples taken in the United States from December 13 of last year revealed the presence of antibodies to the Covid-19 virus, known as Sars-Cov-2.



The first officially known case in China dates from November
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society ... raced-back

And we probably didn't know everything
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/ ... rus-study/

There is reason to think that the emergence of the epidemic dates from September 2019
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1313 ... 12517.html
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 08/01/21, 12:09

Obamot wrote:Thanks to a new study by scientists, the CDC-US finally forced to admit lip service that the virus circulated in the United States before China.

The Chinese claim that it was US athletes who brought the virus to China during the Wuhan military games. It seems that this track, first described as "conspiratorial", is actually more than plausible.
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by VetusLignum » 08/01/21, 12:27

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:The Chinese claim that it was US athletes who brought the virus to China during the Wuhan military games. It seems that this track, first described as "conspiratorial", is actually more than plausible.

They haven't talked about it for a long time.
Their last idea was to blame imported food.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/06/worl ... hoods.html
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by Obamot » 08/01/21, 12:39

And what becomes of “NerdHasPower”, and virologist Li Meng Yan.

It might be time to update / enrich the list of possible events related to a “pre-SARS-cov-2:

”June 30, 2019, pneumonia of unknown cause at Greenspring, a nursing home 15 minutes from Fort Belvoir, Virginia: 54 sick, 3 deaths.

On July 9, another pneumonia of unknown cause in Virginia (Alexandria), all lung images showed the 'ground glass' shadow typical of Covid-19. CHECKED

The following week, an outbreak of pneumonia was reported in a nursing home in Burke, Virginia.

In early August, the CDC expanded its system for detecting pneumonia patients and confined and shut down the army's main P-4 biological warfare laboratory (and Superfund site) at Fort Detrick (in an atmosphere of "fear and mistrust," according to a scientific official).

Coincidentally, the CDC also chose this date to remove the only American epidemiologist integrated into the C-CDC in Beijing. CHECKED

At the end of August, the Virginia Department of Health confirmed three more cases of "serious lung disease of unknown origin". CHECKED

Between August and October, 2,500 patients reported gastrointestinal symptoms beginning before respiratory symptoms, with fever, high heart rate and high white blood cell count - typical symptoms of Covid-19. ”* CHECKED

”Upon hospitalization their lung images showed again the 'ground glass' shadow typical of Covid-19. 50% required intubation and extra oxygen and some required assisted ventilation. 53 died and the cause of the outbreak remains "unexplained". CHECKED

October 2019: As for the origin of virus, since scientists can't prove it's origin, how is it possible that the US President pointed directly “China”. BEFORE having evidences ?.

The Director of US-CDC admitted that people supposedly died in October in USA from flu, was in fact, infected by covid-19 in post mortem analysis. (The exact date when they died was not revealed, but implicitly it was before November 2019, and that could prove the ”non chinese origin” of the virus) surprisingly, US-CDC don't communicate more about this known cases.
CHECKED

CDC confession for December 2019 with source of infection in November 2019 VERIFIED / OFFICIALLY

A similar epidemic occurred simultaneously in Lombardy, Italy (see my other previous link) CHECKED

The following month, the Deputy Director of the CIA participated in a pandemic tabletop exercise, Event 201, which modeled a fictitious coronavirus pandemic and, after years of downsizing, the CDC began hiring quarantine managers.

In January, after private briefings on the COVID-19 pandemic, five senators avoided significant losses by selling major stock holdings and 219 CEOs, the largest cohort ever, retired at the top of the stock market. ” CHECKED


Let's list the things to add, without excluding some, including the new confessions of the CDC (which inevitably bring us to November 2019 if we include incubation and search for “zero infected.” And also possibly what Professor Fourtillan suggested.

If you have sources to supplement? You have to put everything.

And this since Professor Montagnier reiterated the track of / s lab / s US here:



This too underestimated Nobel Prize is very serious.
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by VetusLignum » 08/01/21, 12:53

What is the source of your post from June, with all VERIFIED?
I can't find it anywhere else on the web.
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by Christophe » 08/01/21, 13:31

Obamot wrote:Thanks to a new study by scientists, the CDC-US finally forced to admit lip service that the virus circulated in the United States before China. There had previously been cases of people presumed to have died there from the flu in October, but tested positive for the postmortem virus, but then the CDC had classified all info as “defense secret”. there other cases emerge, which without wanting to advance me, leaves a hope that one day we will know the truth of the origin of the virus, since new ramifications will not fail to be established in the phylogenetic tree ...

An American study reveals:
Signs of coronavirus in the US before the appearance in China

Blood samples taken from nine states before Wuhan case reported have tested positive for pathogen antibodies, says US CDC
Findings indicate infections may have occurred in the western US earlier than previously thought, scientists say


The United States has supplemented research in Italy and France which indicates that the coronavirus may have circulated among populations in a number of countries before it was identified in China and triggered a pandemic.
Scientists from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said on Monday that testing of blood samples taken in the United States from December 13 of last year revealed the presence of antibodies to the Covid-19 virus, known as Sars-Cov-2.
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science ... a-outbreak



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The article dates from 1/12/20 and strictly NO ONE has relayed it in the mainstream media ...

It is still not trivial as information! Even if in the end this does not change the pandemic at all!
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by Obamot » 08/01/21, 23:58

: Arrow: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science ... a-outbreak

VetusLignum wrote:What is the source of your post from June, with all VERIFIED?
I can't find it anywhere else on the web.

We agree that I was only looking here to list all the ASSUMPTIONS on facts of the circulation of the virus prior to the Wuhan case, the certification would be a job done downstream. The word “verified” means that I have been looked at if the information seemed to me to be consistent with the elements given (I obviously do not have the pretension or the means to have been verified on the spot in a military P4 lab : Mrgreen: )

Here's the initial source you're asking for: https://blog.wuyuansheng.com/2020/04/11 ... nt-zero-2/
After the info that is there is disputed or not, that's not my point, we must first make a tracing / listing of “events” where contaminations followed by symptoms, and which have been reported (with a careful reading to avoid at all costs coming across something “conspi”)

We discover among other factual elements, this very curious job offer from the CDC:

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And this long before the pandemic broke out.

An x-ray of the lungs (among others) with the characteristic “signature” of spots caused by COVID-19 infection

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by Obamot » 09/01/21, 00:29

PS: The radios would be dated late August 2019.

Since June 2019, all this has been happening in the same region, after the first “events” ... 2 cases at the end of August 500 of patients with COVID symptoms, it is still not trivial! Would they be officially dead from the flu like the October 2019 cases? What would other post-mortem analyzes give, such as the cases of October 2019, who died of the flu, but whose body exhumation analyzes revealed traces of COVID? Why should it be “classified as a defense secret” and why has the English-speaking press outside the United States hardly mentioned it?

The director of the CDC would not be at his first confession : Arrow: https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1 ... mp4?tag=13

For me this November story is half-confession from the CDC. Just to say, in case bigger items come out:
- “ah we had nothing to do with it, you see, we were transparent...
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