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Re: The human-to-human transmission of 2019-nCoV is proven




by Janic » 31/03/20, 13:29

pedrodelavega »31 / 03 / 20, 12: 11
janic wrote: But there, no bowl, no vaccines, no drugs, and the children are doing better than they are.
No, children do not do better without medoc rather than with. Children are just much less affected and / or much less severely (They are looking for why). But those who are, are treated, if necessary, like the others with medication, resuscitation, etc.

"Wong et al provide in the journal Pediatrics a clinical description of 2143 pediatric cases (including 731 confirmed cases). 94 children were asymptomatic (systematic samples due to contagion). In 94% of cases the disease was mild (from asymptomatic to moderate). Among the 112 severe cases (respiratory distress with oxygen saturation <92%), 60% were less than 5 years old and 30% less than 1 year old and among the 13 critical cases (ARDS and / or organ) 7 was less than 1 year old. A 14-year-old child has died. There are no data on possible comorbidities in the children. "
https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/ ... 2.full.pdf

Except that you did not point that out
There are no data on possible comorbidities in children. "
If 95% (?) Had co-morbidities (diabetes, obesity, family inheritance, etc…) that would then make only a tiny number of real sick children possible because we cannot compare individuals already in pathology with healthy individuals. So without precise data, that means nothing characteristic
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janic wrote: Now there is no miracle because the same phenomenon existed during measles, where naturally affected children very quickly developed their immunity hence the consideration that it was a mild disease at the time.

At the time, measles was a child killer:
like many other childhood illnesses. But when the medical profession made this reflection it was always by comparison with others, much more deadly so the medical history is full.
"This disease characterized by the eruption of red spots on the skin was, before the arrival of vaccines in the 1970s, a formidable killer of children (7 to 8 million deaths estimated per year in the world)."
https://www.sciencesetavenir.fr/sante/l ... nde_133015
Except that France in 70 and the world could not compare with rates of hygiene and medicine at odds.
and that science and the future does not seem to have consulted the official statistics. Which show a dizzying drop in deaths in France and our neighboring countries BEFORE vaccinations. All of this has already been seen and reviewed.
It still wreaks havoc today:
"The killer disease of children has become almost endemic in several provinces of the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC). According to a statement from the World Health Organization (WHO), since the beginning of the current year , more than two hundred and fifty thousand suspected cases and more than five thousand deaths, mainly among children under 5, have been recorded. "
http://www.adiac-congo.com/content/camp ... s-children

As in France when rules of hygiene and sufficient nutrition existed only a little, mainly in the important cities especially.
We are not in the Congo with malnourished children, easily infected and unprotected from various injuries from this environment.
janic wrote: But the phenomenon got worse from the introduction of vaccines that moved this pathology from childhood to babies and adults.
It is false, it is even the reverse:
"Why is this wrong?
-Because if we compare different countries, we find that the better the immunization coverage, the more measles affects the youngest children on average.- (sic) This is normal, since if everyone gets vaccinated the only exposed are young children (less than 1 year in France, less than 6 years in Sweden).
-Because if we compare the same country at different times (France 2018 and France 2011), we see exactly the same thing. "
https://atlas.ecdc.europa.eu/public/ind ... UrFrV-rHsk
It is not a biological reality, but communication / advertising to sell a product.
When you want to be able to get statistics valid, you have to compare comparable cases. However, when one imposes on a whole population, without possible comparison with a situation without, one draws falsified conclusions from it since it is precisely a bias in non-comparative studies.
So where are these really comparative models? Nowhere !
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Re: The human-to-human transmission of 2019-nCoV is proven




by Christophe » 31/03/20, 13:38

And has the blablas on them forums... and the facts in real life ...

Belgium. 12-year-old girl died in Belgium from Covid-19, the country's health authorities announced on Tuesday. "This is a very rare event, but one that upsets us," said Dr. Emmanuel André, a spokesperson for the authorities. This is the first time that the death of a child has been reported in Belgium, where a total of 705 people died as a result of the new coronavirus, according to official figures.


Janic you are about to take your 2nd and penultimate warning !! Not for your words but because you keep making truncated links in your messages !! Now it's enough to take people for idiots!

It's been weeks since I warned you !! : Evil: :!:
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by Janic » 31/03/20, 13:55

Janic you are about to take your 2nd and penultimate warning !! Not for your words but because you keep making truncated links in your messages !! Now it's enough to take people for idiots!
I can't help it if IT plays tricks on me!
For the idiots ... no comments!
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by GuyGadebois » 31/03/20, 14:06

It is however not complicated to make a copy / paste ... : roll:
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by Christophe » 31/03/20, 14:21

Guy is exactly what he does and what should not be done! : Shock:

Janic wrote:
Janic you are about to take your 2nd and penultimate warning !! Not for your words but because you keep making truncated links in your messages !! Now it's enough to take people for idiots!
I can't help it if IT plays tricks on me!
For the idiots ... no comments!


You're kidding serious! You make raw copied / pasted by selecting the text whose links are truncated without using the QUOTE function which does not truncate the LINKS!

I gave you a detailed TUTO JUST FOR YOU a few weeks ago ... but you don't care!
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by GuyGadebois » 31/03/20, 15:07

I never used this function, I just copy / paste and it works every time, at least it seems to me.
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by Christophe » 31/03/20, 15:09

Not with long links no because they are automatically truncated ...
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by GuyGadebois » 31/03/20, 15:38

Christophe wrote:Not with long links no because they are automatically truncated ...

I never noticed.
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Re: The human-to-human transmission of 2019-nCoV is proven




by Janic » 31/03/20, 16:07

Christophe wrote:
Not with long links no because they are automatically truncated ...
that's computer fans; they think everyone should know as much as they do. So I settle the question by not indicating any more link. (Except to be fired obviously) Your system is fine if we only do one quote, beyond that is the mess.
Janic you are about to take your 2nd and penultimate warning !! Not for your words but because you keep making truncated links in your messages !! Now it's enough to take people for idiots!
so as long as to do well, I prefer as much as it is for my nonconformist remarks.
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Re: The human-to-human transmission of 2019-nCoV is proven




by Christophe » 01/04/20, 01:51

There is no need to be a computer specialist to know how to click on an icon and make copied pasted tags ...
You don't want to get started and respect the readers of this forum ? No worries i would chop your next messages ...
Victor cleaner .... Christophe the chopper! You see the kind? : Cheesy:

To return to the subject covid19, another example that shows the meteoric evolution it can have ...

Tonight:

20:25 p.m. The ex-president of OM Pape Diouf, sick, repatriated to France. Pape Diouf, 68, affected by coronavirus and on respiratory assistance, is repatriated from Senegal. He will be taken to a hospital in Nice in a medical plane chartered by the French Embassy in Senegal. OM is behind its former president.


Less than 3 hours later:

22:41 p.m. The ex-president of Olympique de Marseille Pape Diouf died of the new coronavirus, according to a close source. Pape Diouf was to be repatriated from Dakar to Nice (southeast of France) by medical plane but his condition deteriorated, the plane could not take off and he died on Senegalese soil, he said. we learned from the same source. Diouf had been hospitalized in Dakar, suffering from coronavirus and undergoing respiratory assistance.
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