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by Obamot » 26/06/12, 00:18

Christophe wrote:I do not share this "analysis" ...

Neither do I.

And no more desire for river debates, to prove that this is false 8) already given ... : Mrgreen:
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by Christophe » 26/06/12, 00:23

You become paranoid: it's not at all the dedeleco literary style !!

When you see dedes everywhere, you have to do like him: take a vacation! : Cheesy:
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by Obamot » 26/06/12, 00:30

Already answered by MP. : Mrgreen: : Cheesy:

Unless it is an emulator ...! : Mrgreen: (Owl !!!) hihiihihi

There aren't two like him to talk about "HER" quantum theory like this.

And this, despite a different [possibly] IP address and mistakes in French and other typographical artefacts to muddy the waters!

No, it's signed! : Mrgreen: But we don't care.
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by plasmanu » 26/06/12, 05:23

Don't sell the crocodile skin before you kill it.

IP proves nothing: I can change it 11 times for 10 messages
(it's over-unitary : Mrgreen: )

This story of genetic memory is embarrassing.

Transfuse an infant with contaminated blood: go see : Cry:
What happens to an infant born to alcoholic / drug addicted parents.

There is a world famous reference: LIFE IS A LONG QUIET RIVER (see the Groseille family) : Mrgreen:

A strange anecdote.
7 years ago I went down to Yamaha to buy a motorcycle (125) for my wife.
The next day: positive pregnancy test : Shock:

And then according to Doctor Murphy: the little one is covered with a scar, his leg is broken, finished a number of times with incredible urgency: always a Friday evening, a Sunday or a holiday.
On the forehead it looks like Harry Potter.

At 5 he learned to ride a bike on his own without roulette: a real daredevil.
The hard part was to explain THE BRAKES to him. : Mrgreen:
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by Obamot » 26/06/12, 06:16

Okay, let's admit that I made a mistake (unexpected nickname choice)

croco wrote:
- A study was made on the predisposition to cancer child cancer.
Study on 4.500 families.
I seem to remember a child on 3 had cancer.

But a related study was performed in children adopted,
ditto on 4.500 families with parental cancer ,,
and as many childhood cancers, the% meadows.

But who said there was a "genetic memory" or… "cellular»Statistically demonstrable by such non-randomized studies ??

It's like the low dose radiation mortality statistics. Difficult to define because being in the "background noise" of the statistical values ​​...

croco wrote:-> no acquired genetic predisposition,
but influée by the surroundings.

Yes and no. It would still be necessary to determine precisely under what circumstances this manifests!
So it would be better to say "Influenced by the entourage ...or not!!!». Back to square one.

Even though, although this is not absolute, it is certain that it will happen: absolutely certain! Only in many cases it is not possible to say it (in particular because of the placebo / nocebo principle, the nursing staff must be very careful EVEN in what they say to the patient), and obviously even less to prove it by statistics as presented, as soon as we know that there is an active contribution and intervention by the subject in the healing (and pathology) process!

So in the same family, it may well be that such pathology is revealed in one case and not in another. If we did not understand that .... We can search for a long time (except the CHUV, the HUG and many other hospitals which have made discoveries in the right way ...).

croco wrote:-> Demonstrated in all cases by classical medicine,
that according to the laws of Dr. Hamer, the psyche influences the disease.

... or not! QED.

(Still happy that the DHS is not systematic!)

croco wrote:
a descendant may adopt behaviors that are not theirs or repeat this event as if it was unable to avoid it.

- It is explained by dowsing the impact of deceased entities on the evolution of diseases of the living.

A little peremptory, right? Thank you, but nothing is explained in such a sentence. Nothing.

croco wrote:So in the example cited above this can also be explained
by the mere influence of the entity
or memory influée by family,
or by its collective consciousness,
the memory of the ven? ....

Sophism. (Fortunately there is a question mark ...)

croco wrote:- Look for the cellular regeneration offered by the Russian academician GPGrabovoï,
it also gives living organ regeneration by developing DNA.

Well, well ... The problem is taken upside down: epigenetics is "The field that studies how the environment and individual history influence gene expression", there can therefore be no generality, since everything depends on the individual terrain.
Now it is also proven, especially with regard to said memory, that one cannot therefore "regenerate" organs. The only organ capable of regenerating (if the square lobe is not reached) is the liver ...

croco wrote:(Little information in French
but it is very known in Russia,
everything is officialy certified, verified, recognized, etc ...).

That's funny : Mrgreen:

croco wrote:It deals with the same "psycho-biological" laws as dr hamer.

FYI, HS,
other physicists have brought this knowledge,
as Gregg Braden (video can be faked?)

Yes, well, we should be careful not to mix everything. Hamer says right things, but you cannot use them to make people believe false things. If laying on of hands, for example, would cure certain ailments in some cases, and it really works. Why not use them! It is also up to the patient to choose the way he wants to treat himself ... But that does not mean that those who engage in it will have the certainty of being cured.
It may simply be that "psychically positively stimulated in some way", such and such a person has found in them the means to" manufacture the drug "which will make them heal themselves (since our organism knows how to do this very well and regularly without external intervention). But the same subject can also produce products that act as poisons, on the same principle.

croco wrote:but all he says is very logical

Fortunately there are those who find it logical, without setting the right priorities in the speech - but how do they do these "awesome"Soothsayers, do they have a crystal ball? - Once again we must restore the good order of things.

croco wrote:
once again "science" always arrives one metro behind reality with its "proofs"

This is explained by quantum physics,
or a law undermines 100 laws of classical physics,
or the observer affects the result of the experiment by simple observation,
etc ....

Dedeleco, get out of this body : Mrgreen:

croco wrote:-> this is wrong:
Nothing shrink, that self control operation genes by themselves, very hyper complex, and that is our reality of living to discover yet
.

"Medicine is above all that of the soul" - Hippocrates.

and if the divine words, designers, etc ...
return with quantum physics,
this is only an interpretation of "revealed" natural laws
(One could say consciousness or matrix materialization or regeneration, etc ...) ..

Hoping you have a little enlightened.

Be careful not to generalize by applying to everyone without hasty conclusions without any distinction ...
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by croco » 26/06/12, 09:28

I do not follow you :
you insult me, and don't know me,
you judge without seeing it (without having experienced it yourself),
you make claims about phenomena that it is either absurd to want to prove, or too subtle to be demonstrated by a basic mind ...

Anyway, you can see things the way you want,
but these discussions of subjective opinions, without concrete experience ...
it's null and void ...

Eg,
regenerate:
lizards have a tail that grows back ....

What is funny?
Are you a franchouillard who never got out of his village? (trip!)
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by nlc » 26/06/12, 09:39

croco wrote:I forgot,
in terms of cellular memory,
work (officialy recognized) dr Gernez.


Thank you for this link, I had already seen this video and I was looking for it !!!
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by croco » 26/06/12, 09:47

It has been deleted from youtube & C °.



See this one too: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xac49j ... lus-p_news

these are biographies taken from a book which is in its 3rd volume,
video 2-3 (if I remember correctly) recounts a hidden genetic discovery.
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by Obamot » 26/06/12, 09:53

croco wrote:I do not follow you :
you do not know me


Hop there, calm down! I changed my mind (a little ...). : Mrgreen:

I possibly confused with someone who is temporarily banished and who had as pseudo bis "the crocodile(Does a search). So indeed, I had not completely corrected my message and I apologize.

On the other hand, I believe that the answers given - apart from any controversy - are well founded.

croco wrote:discussions of subjective opinions, without concrete experience

What do you know about that. I am a graduate and recognized in the prevention field, with more than fifteen years of experience and radio broadcasts on the subject! (Our site is HONcode certified ...>) And I follow the news very closely in this area.

croco wrote:Eg,
regenerate:
lizards have a tail that grows back ....

Arf, we are talking about regeneration of living organs in humans there, right? Because lizards with radiesthesis and / or psychological mechanisms, I have a lot of trouble ... : Mrgreen:

On the other hand, I quite agree with your words, nevertheless there is a certain confusion on points of detail in what I could read there. If you want to further support your point of view there around, you are welcome. : Lol:
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by croco » 26/06/12, 10:21

Hop there, calm down!

.Never nice to be trashed at 8am ...
in short.

.
What do you know about that


I know I can't do anything,
but that everything is known:
in dowsing, for example,
you do self-denial-emptiness-neutrality-flexibility of mind ...
otherwise you distort the result,
but if you follow a few rules,
you see that you know what "Cartesian" you did not know (for demonstration the search for objects or animals, of which you were totally unaware of the situation).




health:
I no longer argue,
I have family or doctor friends,
healing is not what motivates them ....
("yes yes of course, I know Hamer well, and think highly of it ... but no question, I have to work ...".




Regeneration of live oragans:
just scarring right?

Maybe you should try for yourself, on yourself,
the simplest being the encrypted combinations, or to heal an eye with multiplication of cells .....

(I had "dematerialized" small objects a long time ago,
it took me 30 seconds to imagine,
30 to design,
30 to do ....:
but never, oh never, I would never explain how,
it is far too dangerous in the hands of ill will.

it's not really dematerialization,
but used up the energy of time,
which this Russian uses for materialization).

In short ... it's not a "proof" therefore
(I don't see the point of proving:
everything is possible if you want, and vice versa
-> why laugh at quantum?).




confusion on points of detail


I will not develop indefinitely,
this allows everyone to be free to judge:

for example the 4.500 cases,
of course the family factor is not necessarily the only one,
and the DNA probably "imprints" on it,

eg hamer,
of course the reverse can be demonstrated concretely
(i.e. with laws you can do good or bad),
but it will remain basically the same ...

etc ...
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