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Re: The dead of pollution




by Obamot » 17/06/20, 10:32

Christophe wrote:
In Europe I'm not sure ...


Difficult to trace because multi-factorial, but ...

There is this:

https://www.slate.fr/story/190161/confinement-11000-deces-pollution-evites-europe

And this :

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/2995521/6980744/3-10092015-AP-FR.pdf/156f9129-65c6-4c44-b853-846139224702

In addition, those who suffer from tobacco addiction and more live in polluted places, I would not like to be in their place!
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Re: The dead of pollution




by Obamot » 30/06/20, 23:36

And here are the following to put in direct perspective with the covid-19 (and that's what I think from the start) the mortality rate in the world - due specifically to covid-19, may well not be significantly different from the years before ... little more - On the other hand, comorbidity becomes endemic ... (this is the REAL CHRONIC world pandemic):

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It can only be a sad observation, but 35,7 million people died in 2016 from diseases and co-morbidity that affected the victims of covid-19 (if we add the cancers of which we have not spoken much, but which are part of it!) and it will be no different in 2020. The victims of covid-19 will be drowned in “statistical background noise”.

Thus, I bet that these main degenerative diseases will not change the overall death toll over 1 year, compared to the 2017 assessment:

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by ABC2019 » 30/06/20, 23:44

Obamot wrote:
It can only be a sad observation, but 35,7 million people died in 2016 from diseases and co-morbidity that affected the victims of covid-19 (if we add the cancers of which we have not spoken much, but which are part of it!) and it will be no different in 2020. The victims of covid-19 will be drowned in “statistical background noise”.

Thus, I bet that these main degenerative diseases will not change the overall death toll over 1 year, compared to the 2017 assessment:


the spread of the virus having been very heterogeneous, if you want to estimate its dangerousness, you have to look at the statistics in the regions where it has been most severe, for example in Lombardy or New York - and even there, measures have been severe to limit it, which there has not been for other diseases.
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Re: The dead of pollution




by Obamot » 01/07/20, 00:02

I completely agree, it will not have escaped me, but the fact remains that people “having to die in the year” (statistically speaking) it is awful to say but without covid they would probably still be deceased in the year in progress (for example from another virus) the covid-19 having only accelerated things a little ...

And that will be verified statistically alas. Some people will be a little luckier than others ... since precisely because of covid-19, they will have learned to protect themselves, to make efforts for their lifestyle, and they could thus gain a few years of extra life ... Each misfortune can be good,

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Re: The dead of pollution




by Christophe » 01/07/20, 00:56

Obamot wrote:And here are the following to put in direct perspective with the covid-19 (and that's what I think from the start) the mortality rate in the world - due specifically to covid-19, may well not be significantly different from the years before ... little more - On the other hand, comorbidity becomes endemic ... (this is the REAL CHRONIC world pandemic)


It turns on RS since early March this kind of stuff ...

But what does this have to do with pollution ???

Also missing malnutrition and junk food in this table: approximately 2 times 35 million ...

Ah no, the 35 million of junk food can be, in part, counted in the top 4 of the ranking! : Mrgreen:

So there is still malnutrition ... the grim reaper's first "winner"!
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Re: The dead of pollution




by Obamot » 01/07/20, 01:04

The junk food is to be considered as “poisoning” in the criminal sense - I hope that one day justice will be done for the hundreds of millions of dead who are the direct victims - people who trust often blindly in the system.
There are also some extenuating circumstances ...

But it is therefore a pollution in the content of our plates.
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Re: The dead of pollution




by GuyGadebois » 01/07/20, 01:05

If I run away, I also miss the dead by chronic, slow, invisible chemical poisoning. Thank you Big Chemical.
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by Christophe » 01/07/20, 02:30

Obamot wrote:The junk food is to be considered as “poisoning” in the criminal sense - I hope that one day justice will be done for the hundreds of millions of dead who are the direct victims - people who trust often blindly in the system.
There are also some extenuating circumstances ...

But it is therefore a pollution in the content of our plates.


Ah ah ah beautiful pirouette ... except that you were not talking about junk food!

What about malnutrition? : Cheesy:
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Re: The dead of pollution




by Christophe » 01/07/20, 02:30

GuyGadebois wrote:If I run away, I also miss the dead by chronic, slow, invisible chemical poisoning. Thank you Big Chemical.


A game over in cancer right?

You did see ? TWO times more suicides than homicides !! : Shock: : Shock: : Shock:

Then funny, they count terrorism but not wars ... : Mrgreen:

And natural deaths, old age ... wherever they are? : Shock:
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Re: The dead of pollution




by GuyGadebois » 01/07/20, 02:39

Christophe wrote:
GuyGadebois wrote:If I run away, I also miss the dead by chronic, slow, invisible chemical poisoning. Thank you Big Chemical.


A game over in cancer right?

Certainly, e.g. leukemia caused by different solvents, but not only. There are various fatal neurological diseases (Parkinson is listed) or organ destruction (eg liver, also listed, but vaguely), birth defects that make you die young, and others that do not do not come to mind.
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