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[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

Coconut milk, almond milk... What are the dangers of infant milk for infants?

As seen above, feeding a child exclusively with infant milk can certainly lead to nutritional deficiencies, but also much more serious consequences. Deficiencies can thus be the cause of edema with hypoalbuminemia, hematomas, bone fractures or even the death of the child in the most extreme cases.

The signs that should alert you if your child suffers from deficiencies are firstly his metabolism: thinness can be a cause of dietary deficiencies. If your child is tired and seems to catch illnesses like colds or flu often, this can also be a sign of deficiencies. Do not hesitate to quickly consult your pediatrician.

https://www.parents.fr/archive-ops-part ... aux-420341

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

Vegan parents avoid prison for starving their baby of nutrients

Vegan parents have avoided prison after their baby girl was left permanently disabled due to malnutrition from a plant-based diet.
The 12-month-old baby was rushed to Geelong's emergency department in August 2018, where doctors found bruises, open sores, rashes and skin discolouration.

They found that she was bleeding internally, had blood in her stools and needed respiratory support.

They also found that the baby suffered from severe protein-calorie malnutrition known as "Kwashiorkor", which is often seen in children in famine-stricken countries, the court heard.

Seven days before the 34-year-old father rushed the infant to hospital, he wrote an email to a US-based 'herbal' health club asking for advice.

"Hi, my 1 year old daughter has stopped wanting to drink/eat and when she does she won't stay in bed or she starts coughing. What can I do to help her calm down and allow her to drink. She has no acting. She is on a fruit diet. Help us as soon as possible," the father wrote in an email to the US consultant.

Instead of advising the man to take his child to the hospital, the consultant suggested a 'gastric tea' for the baby.

A week later, the girl, who weighed only 6,040 kg, was in intensive care. She stayed there for a month.

The parents started feeding the baby a mixture of coconut water and powders instead of formula after the baby stopped breastfeeding in 2017.

https://www.news.com.au/national/victor ... 71ed90e89a

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

Vegan mother sentenced to life in prison

A mother, a convinced vegan, was sentenced to life in prison after the death of her son, suffering from severe malnutrition. The infant was exclusively fed vegetable milk. The opportunity to remember that this mode of feeding is not appropriate, even dangerous, for toddlers.

Three years after the facts at the end of August 2022, the State of Florida, in the United States, imposes the maximum sentence on him. Justice considered that the death of his son was indeed his full responsibility, and deserved life. Sheila O'Leary, a convinced vegan, will thus spend the rest of her life behind bars, convicted of the severe state of malnutrition which took Ezra away, in September 2019. The 18-month-old little boy was indeed fed than with breast milk, dried fruits and vegetables. "This child did not eat enough. He starved to death after 18 months," said Francine Donnorummo, head of the Special Victims Unit at the Lee County State's Attorney's Office, during the court hearing. trial of the mother, an uncompromising vegan. The other two children, aged 3 and 5, of Sheila O'Leary and her husband are also malnourished and the father of the family will also have to answer for his actions in an upcoming trial.

In Belgium too, a couple was given a six-month suspended prison sentence. The reason ? Their 7-month-old baby died of dehydration and malnutrition, after being fed only vegetable milk between his 3 and 7 months. These vegan diets, very fashionable at the moment, are attracting more and more families out of conviction, or for reasons of allergy or lactose intolerance, But between 0 and 3 years old, an infant should not be fed exclusively with drinks. plants and such a diet requires prior knowledge and supervision by a pediatrician. Indeed, these products do not cover the needs for calcium, proteins, iron, zinc and vitamins D and K.

https://www.journaldesfemmes.fr/maman/b ... an-prison/

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

How would your examples disqualify the (true) miscellaneous facts set out above? "One wonders. No, in fact "we" don't really wonder "we" don't care about your deliquescence...

[Janic]

16/04/23, 18:57
guy

How would your examples disqualify the (true) miscellaneous facts set out above? "One wonders. No, in fact "we" don't really wonder "we" don't care about your deliquescence..

my examples do not disqualify anything at all, they show that one can make anyone say anything and especially among those who know nothing about the subjects they claim to judge by the yardstick of some rare cases,[*] not representative of the whole. That's zetism characterized by ignorant people in the topics covered.
As for your "we" it only represents YOU. Have the courage of your opinions even if it's bullshit that is becoming more and more customary to you.

[*] and I am not advocating veganism with which I have some major differences.
However, they at least, they live (more or less well) their subject without being observed your few very, very rare cases which you want to make a generalization like all the ignoramuses, the way AFIS and its funny people do it on the 'H for example and why not on ayurveda which they consider as illegal medicine and therefore quackery.
https://www.afis.org/L-irrationnel-a-l- ... es-preuves

And above all, don't forget your brilliant anatomical demonstration, which we learn in primary school, however.

[sicetaitsimple]

Or in India where babies in hospitals are fed with surplus American and other canned milk and where mothers are dissuaded from breast-feeding their babies,

"We" would be ready to listen to you if at least you provided the beginning of a proof of what you affirm...
There, it comes out of the hat, from the surplus of American canned milk....Why not, but it's just in Janic's head, or are there really facts that attest to it today? Could it be from 40 years ago?
India is still the largest milk producer in the world.
Go ahead, source. "We are listening to you.

[Janic]

simpleton

"We" would be ready to listen to you if at least you provided the beginning of a proof of what you affirm...

the "we" in question is no more willing than you, since YOU A PRIORI refuse to do so, otherwise you would have tried to find out, without my help. The rest is your usual chatter!

There, it comes out of the hat, from the surplus of American canned milk....Why not, but it's just in Janic's head, or are there really facts that attest to it today? Could it be from 40 years ago?

find out, with your usual internet, you should easily find documentaries on this subject.

India is still the largest milk producer in the world.

of animals out of reach of the purses of the many poor, who have no access to them, even when the best milk for the child is that of its mother

Go ahead, source. "We are listening to you.

go ahead and search a bit and then we'll listen to you.

https://www.tresor.economie.gouv.fr/Pag ... 74g%2Fjour.

However, production is very sensitive to climate change.
Livestock production in India is a major contributor to climate change and is also very seriously threatened by the rise in temperature. The state of Haryana predicts a 25% drop in milk production by 2050 due to global warming. The national action plan ignores water constraints, yet necessary for the production of fodder and the watering of animals.

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

I foresee a drop in Janic's attendance on this forum, by 100% in 2050.

[sicetaitsimple]

simpleton

Why not, but it's just in Janic's head, or there are really facts that prove it today? Could it be from 40 years ago?

find out, with your usual internet, you should easily find documentaries on this subject.

Sorry, I can't find the documents from the 60s/70s, when your brain obviously froze on all the subjects.
You just have to remember that India feeds its babies with surplus American milk and that's it. At least it's simple.