The dangers of allopathy vs safety of alternative medicines

[pedrodelavega]

From the same source,
The evaluation of homeopathy in 30 years of Prescrire review:

http://www.prescrire.org/Fr/3/31/55347/ ... tails.aspx

[Janic]

From the same source,
The evaluation of homeopathy in 30 years of Prescrire review:
http://www.prescrire.org/Fr/3/31/55347/ ...tails.aspx

the issue has been seen over and over again.
Prescrire is a specialist journal on allopathy and she alone and therefore it supports or denounces the practices of this specialty. On the other hand, they have no competence to "judge" the validity of this or that medicine, other than their own, as it is the same for any other profession.
I will therefore take the example, for newcomers, of two industrial specialties such as aviation or navy. The bases in mechanics are the same in these two specialties (allopaths as homeopaths have the same basic training sanctioned by a single "allopathic" diploma recognizing their professional quality). However, developing the skills of these engineers in aeronautics or marine and even more in submariner, does not allow claiming to master the “opposite” specialty. So if aeronautical engineers (or vice versa, it doesn't matter) wanted to judge the validity of submarines according to THEIR criteria in avionics, any fool would realize it can't work. [*] And therefore, even following meta-analyzes, it would always appear that no submarine has ever managed to fly, nor has any plane ever dived in deep water.
Clearly, if homeopaths, trained in this matter, have the officially recognized skills in allopathy, allopaths have none of the necessary skills in homeopathy and therefore cannot judge its value in real situations.

The most characteristic example of this is given by the founder of AFIS (who brings together a good range of incompetent people on subjects that go beyond their specialty) and who does not hesitate to ridicule himself by using an image of Epinal on the H which would consist in curing "the evil by the evil" (another recurrent stupidity among the opponents) where, in the event of blow of hammer on the head, it would be enough to give some others to cure it. It shows the level of the guy and by repercussion that of the members of this sect ... sorry association law 1901.

[*] except that there are really fools who pretend the opposite!

[Janic]

https://www.ouvertures.net/pour-le-dr-e ... -un-delit/
You live and work in Switzerland. Is the situation different there? And in other European countries?
- Struck with selective amnesia, our detractors always forget to mention, for example, the “Health Technology Assessment” report of 2011 prepared on behalf of the Swiss health authorities: this report concludes that “Homeopathy as practiced in Switzerland is clinically effective, economical and safe ”.
On this basis, the Swiss Federal Council confirmed on August 1, 2017 the reimbursement of prescriptions for complementary medicine by basic health insurance.
> The text of the right of reply sent by Edouard Broussalian to Le Figaro and refused by the latter.
Dr. Richard Horton, editor-in-chief of the prestigious journal The Lancet, says:
"The accusations against science are simple: much of the scientific literature, perhaps half, is simply false ... science has taken a turn towards obscurity. "
And Dr. Marcia Angell drives the point home:
"It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the published clinical research ... I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I have slowly and reluctantly reached in my two decades as editor from the New England Journal of Medicine ”.

[pedrodelavega]

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

Is that all the dung you got to post, Vegaz? You split even more than a small text, you post directly from the sewer?

[Janic]

curious mixture of coherent valid things and total ignorance about naturopathy, which hardly corresponds to his rather summary speech? The stated objective is to denigrate for free to promote BP, the official dietetics and nutritionists who know nothing about these subjects. and why not the zetetic?

NB: considering her age, she hardly had to practice the subject in depth!

[Exnihiloest]

 
Alternative medicine test


Some Swiss hospitals still use a medieval prayer called "the secret":
https://www.anguillesousroche.com/sante ... e-saigner/

"Known as the 'Secret', this 'blood charm is widely practiced in the French-speaking part of Switzerland' and is said to work by mobilizing 'higher forces to help heal the patient'. The Secret has recently been the subject of of a study to test the effectiveness of the ritual.
Despite its crude nature and unproven results, 76% of study participants believed The Secret would protect them from excessive bleeding and even asked their doctor to perform the ritual before an operation.

For this study, researchers compared the bleeding outcomes of 200 patients undergoing invasive coronary procedures in Switzerland. Half of the patients received standard modern medical care, while the other half received standard plus Le Secret care. Outcomes were measured using the Bleeding Academic Research Consortium (BARC) scale.

Of those who received the Medieval Prayer, 72% had no bleeding, 16% had a BARC rating of 1, and 12% a BARC rating of 2.
Among patients who received only standard medical care, 73% had no bleeding, 14% had a BARC score of one, and 13% a BARC score of two."

Basically, the two groups, the one with the prayer and the one without, achieved incredibly similar results.
The harmlessness of prayer as an alternative medicine, that's for sure. And its harmlessness is equal to its total ineffectiveness: not even a placebo effect!
Ah shit, Janic will not be happy, the obscurantists have lost again!

[Janic]

dumb

Basically, the two groups, the one with the prayer and the one without, achieved incredibly similar results.
The harmlessness of prayer as an alternative medicine, that's for sure. And its harmlessness is equal to its total ineffectiveness: not even a placebo effect!

and the village idiot perseveres once more!
In both cases, patients are confident (which affects blood function). So the placebo effect plays the same role in both cases.

Ah shit, Janic will not be happy, the obscurantists have lost again!

apart from the fact that Janic pisses you off..., the obscurantist is still you like all the superstitious in technology who believe in the miracles of this one! "to the failure of this one, which is as much each year as the covid and its pseudovaxx in 150.000 years!)

[pedrodelavega]

[Janic]

pedro the funny and the smoker Extractor of the bogus zetetic sect!
typical example of a proBP stuffing.
What percentage of deaths in naturopaths compared to the same deaths in allopaths?
Then in what state of unhealth (most abandoned by allopathic medicine) are the sufferers in these naturo?

Water fasting is total abstinence from food for several days: participants consume only water.
The Tours prosecutor's office immediately opened an investigation, and entrusted the investigations to the Loches gendarmerie brigade. An autopsy took place earlier this week. “We are awaiting additional elements but there are no traces indicating the intervention of a third party”, explains the prosecution. At this stage, there is therefore nothing to link this death to the activities of the internship.
https://www.lanouvellerepublique.fr/tou ... e-hydrique