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Re: Resignation of Dr Raoult, supporter of Chloroquine, from the Covid Scientific Council19




by pedrodelavega » 14/08/20, 09:42

Adrien (ex-nico239) wrote:Perronne's study of August 2

Unsurprisingly, the azthromicine used in dual therapy with hydroxychloroquine (or not) reduces the risks of aggravation of positive patients.
This is just a reiteration of what is now clinical evidence that the Moselle doctors and many others who had prescribed macrolides to their patients and who had all testified to the clear improvement in their state

And this study: https://www.ijidonline.com/action/showP ... %2930534-8
shows that adding AZT in addition to HCQ degrades efficacy and that HCQ alone does better than AZT alone.

: Arrow: Conclusion: These non-randomized observational / retrospective studies are unreliable. : roll:
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by Obamot » 14/08/20, 09:50

blah-blah-blah
izentrop wrote:
Adrien (ex-nico239) wrote:It's like being in the GDR with the Stasi
In reality, this would be the case if we agreed with Peronne and Raoult. It would be the triumph of populism against established scientific facts.

How would it be relevant to challenge the reason?
Or the real science would be “populist and against the established facts? : Cheesy:
Or would you like to say that in the well-oiled cogs of science, there would be eminent figures who would not meet the ambient criteria that you defend (the Galileo syndrome) those having the behavior of rhetoricians? But then in this case, it should be borne in mind that digressions are possible in both “camps” (which some see as such ...), only reason is lacking to sort the wheat from the chaff. Here is the problem, and it is very, very hard to do among the incompetent (exp-auto-proc)

izentrop wrote:It will likely come to this point when the global economy is on its knees with the debacle of resource depletion and CD.

This is what some defend here, while claiming to defend the opposite! (The exp-auto-proc)
izentrop wrote: The law of the most twisted, the strongest will once again be the rule. :|

Ah you believe that ... My poor man, that it is already there, this law, look at yourself in a mirror, (you exp-auto-proc) what you defend with blinders is to stack up, the arguments that you use, the twisted mind you put there ... it flies low.

The mirror has spoken! Monomaniac sophists, here is the truth, it is not from me ...

What are you doing in a forum green, like leeches, to defend - immature, head down and in a bag:
- chemistry (which certainly does not only do bad things, but it is on these that you insist);
- nuclear (fusion which sends us into a wall, while for your best arguments you should defend thermodynamic solar):
- the interests of industry (almost globally and systematically):
- GMOs (which are thwarted by nature's resistance to herbicides and disrupt diversity, ultra-well-known facts, but always with their heads in a bag, denial is always present in every sentence ...)
- the obvious bad faith of a good part of the medical world in conjunction with pharmas (which was known WELL BEFORE the situation of covid-19, again the denial, tenacious ...)

Against you the facts:
- statistics (which you go so far as to interpret to serve your purposes instead of making them a real tool for reflection (although these are sometimes unreliable photographs of the situation.)
- the economy is in distress (we talk about it until the WEF, but for you everything is fine ...)
- the explosion of degenerative diseases I gave a figure of 80% (in view of the mortality of these) but Myoper on Futura-Science, who is a visionary, evaluates them between 95 and 100%. While here the self-proclaimed experts (exp-auto-proc) continue to speak ...

The problem that almost all of you (the clan of the omniscient and omnipresent few) is that you have to prove yourself right at all costs, you are not capable of entering into a debate other than massively dependent ( with a high dose of copy-pasted and links wanting to “prove” je ne sais quoi ..) while we are close to caricature and massive recourse to “sources” (proving major shortcomings since the debate, you flee it and n 'do not try to make the difference) you never question yourself, it is the very nature of trolls, but here there is a nest, encrusted ... indecrottable. Without creating any illusion around anyone (in view of the endemic desertion of forum, and even “sizes”, and while I was away for a few years). But "it's Google's SEO fault" : Lol:
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by ABC2019 » 14/08/20, 09:50

Obamot wrote:Here is the problem, and it is very, very hard to do among the incompetent (exp-auto-proc)

one wonders in which category you put yourself yourself: a self-proclaimed expert? an expert recognized by others (by whom?)? a non-expert?
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by Obamot » 14/08/20, 09:57

[read exception: ignored member ABC2019]

ABC2019 THE TYPICAL RHETEUR - AVOID QUESTIONS AND DEBATE wrote:
Obamot wrote: only reason is lacking to sort the wheat from the chaff ... Here is the problem, and it is very, very hard to do among the incompetent (exp-auto-proc)

one wonders in which category you put yourself yourself: a self-proclaimed expert? an expert recognized by others (by whom?)? a non-expert?


In the ranks of those who have enough humility to maintain the necessary lucidity in order to flush out the self-proclaimed experts (who will easily recognize themselves ...) : Cheesy:

And don't ask that of me, it's not of me, ask Remundo for example.

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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 14/08/20, 11:13

pedrodelavega wrote:
Adrien (ex-nico239) wrote:Do you have any details on the origin and condition of the patients mentioned in this pseudo study as well as the stage of Covid (phase 1 or 2) they were at when they were given hydroxychloroquine?
More information is available in the article linked in the tweet.


I can not find them.
If you have them it is gladly
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by ENERC » 14/08/20, 14:10

JORF n ° 0199 of August 14, 2020
text number 24

Decree n ° 2020-1035 of August 13, 2020 modifying decree n ° 2020-860 of July 10, 2020 prescribing the general measures necessary to deal with the epidemic of covid-19 in the territories emerging from the state of health emergency and in those where it has been extended

4 ° In the first paragraph of A of II of article 50, after the word: “Prohibit” are inserted the words: “or regulate”;
5 ° In Annex 2, the second paragraph is replaced by the following two paragraphs:


“- department of Bouches-du-Rhône;
"- Paris. ";


Isn't it our friend Asterix (pr Raoult) who said that the Covid-19 epidemic would end in the summer?
In any case, it picks up very strongly in the 13.
In fact, we know where it comes from but we only do a few tests in the airports, and it is not found in the ferries that dock in Marseilles.
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by phil12 » 14/08/20, 14:45

400 pages!
Another little effort and the Guiness will show up!

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Too bad we lost Gadebois on the way, that makes the average drop a bit!
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 14/08/20, 14:58

I thought it was the countries of the south that counted the consequences of Covid in a fanciful way.

And yet Great Britain

Revision downward in deaths with 5300 fewer.
Coronavirus in UK: death toll drops following new counting method


Downward revision of -1,308,071 tests
Covid-19 testing data: methodology notes
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 14/08/20, 15:08

ENERC wrote:
JORF n ° 0199 of August 14, 2020
text number 24

Decree n ° 2020-1035 of August 13, 2020 modifying decree n ° 2020-860 of July 10, 2020 prescribing the general measures necessary to deal with the epidemic of covid-19 in the territories emerging from the state of health emergency and in those where it has been extended

4 ° In the first paragraph of A of II of article 50, after the word: “Prohibit” are inserted the words: “or regulate”;
5 ° In Annex 2, the second paragraph is replaced by the following two paragraphs:


“- department of Bouches-du-Rhône;
"- Paris. ";


Isn't it our friend Asterix (pr Raoult) who said that the Covid-19 epidemic would end in the summer?
In any case, it picks up very strongly in the 13.
In fact, we know where it comes from but we only do a few tests in the airports, and it is not found in the ferries that dock in Marseilles.



Image Since 30 million holidaymakers have been spending their summer holidays in Pas de Calais, the PACA population can calmly infect itself and see its number of positive tests increase ...
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 14/08/20, 16:07

Adrien (ex-nico239) wrote:I thought it was the countries of the south that counted the consequences of Covid in a fanciful way.

And yet Great Britain

Revision downward in deaths with 5300 fewer.
Coronavirus in UK: death toll drops following new counting method


Downward revision of -1,308,071 tests
Covid-19 testing data: methodology notes



Thin with us too ???
Damn me, who thought that it was only in the sub continents that this epidemic was badly counted ... Image

Covid-19: these two flaws that skew the real number of new cases in Paris


All that remains is to take into account the current 20/30 million tourists from the Côte d'Azur to affirm that residents of the PACA region are all becoming positive. Image
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