After this interesting exchange of bird names - very interesting - let us return to the subject:
https://www.jim.fr/medecin/actualites/p ... _pro.phtml
Definitely, there is everything to qualify quackery: greed (we asked 1000 € or more in the form of a donation), call to the dark forces (God, in this case), various amalgams (sister Josepha, deceased but never having contributed to this pantalonnade, sacred premises, ...). In short, the total ...
There are some who have no shame and no shame. Whatever their titles… On people weakened by Alzheimer's, Parkinson's and other neurological diseases…
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and blah, blah, blah, blah!
They are funny all these ominous birds, who know in advance what the courts will decide.
They are funny all these ominous birds, who know in advance what the courts will decide.
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So you have become a soothsayer ?!But yes but yes...
who is asking exorbitant sums for a single dose of medication? and who would rather let children die than make a humanitarian gesture? there greed is at its maximum.Definitely, there is everything to qualify quackery: greed (we asked 1000 € or more in the form of a donation), call to the dark forces (God, in this case), various amalgams (sister Josepha, deceased but never having contributed to this pantalonnade, sacred premises, ...). In short, the total ...
Call to the dark forces? Because chance is not one?
By an amalgam coupled with a deep ignorance of faith, except for nuclear power, there it works thoroughly because there is money to be made !!
And 1.000 euros in donation it is much less than those who are solicited for the telethon while the labs collect billions of profit that they distribute among large shareholders. (they must say that these naives, who open their purses for a noble cause, are genuinely gullible and blind. No matter, it’s always as much for them as they will have to collect!)
This is a real, a huge scandal!
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The National Council of the Order of Physicians has initiated disciplinary proceedings for "charlatanism" against Professor Joyeux and seven other physicians who are members of the structure which has organized experiments on Alzheimer's and Parkinson's patients, he announced. Friday, October 4, 2019.
The Bar Council pursues them "for violation in particular of articles 15 (research involving the human person), 39 (charlatanism) and 40 (unjustified risk) of the code of ethics", he said in a press release. This procedure can go as far as cancellation. In addition, the Council of the Order "took the decision to become a civil party in the criminal aspect of this case". Revealed on September 19, 2019 by the Medicines Agency (ANSM), which then denounced a "wild clinical trial", this case is the subject of a judicial investigation.
Independently of this case, Professor Joyeux is already the subject of another procedure before the Order of Physicians, for two anti-vaccine petitions that he had published on the internet in 2014 and 2015. In first instance, on July 8 2016, he was struck off by the disciplinary chamber of Languedoc-Roussillon. But on appeal, on June 26, 2018, he had been cleared by the national disciplinary chamber of the Order of Physicians, an independent body of the National Council. The latter then appealed to the Council of State, which quashed the cancellation of the radiation on July 24. Mr. Joyeux must therefore be retried before the Order, on a date which has not yet been fixed. https://www.sciencesetavenir.fr/sante/e ... 137966.amp
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The National Council of the Order of Physicians has initiated disciplinary proceedings for "charlatanism" against Professor Joyeux and seven other physicians who are members of the structure which has organized experiments on Alzheimer's and Parkinson's patients, he announced. Friday, October 4, 2019.
The Bar Council pursues them "for violation in particular of articles 15 (research involving the human person), 39 (charlatanism) and 40 (unjustified risk) of the code of ethics", he said in a press release. This procedure can go as far as cancellation. In addition, the Council of the Order "took the decision to become a civil party in the criminal aspect of this case". Revealed on September 19, 2019 by the Medicines Agency (ANSM), which then denounced a "wild clinical trial", this case is the subject of a judicial investigation.
Another big bunch of nonsense. The decisions, whatever they are, are not the responsibility of this order, but of justice independent of these lobbies. However, an accusation and the facts are not equivalent.
As for the radiation, they are ridiculing themselves once again since no longer exercising it is like a company which would like to dismiss one of its former retired employees, but the ridiculous never stopped them.
For quackery, which corresponds to a precise and legal definition, and they will be sent to the wall because this definition is applicable to all the medical profession which uses drugs. For the rest, do not anticipate the law and justice.
According to the definition given by the terminology and neology commission for the health field, the medical act corresponds to "any act the performance of which, by verbal, written, physical or instrumental means, is performed by a member of a medical profession, within the framework of its exercise and the limits of its competence ”. Consequently, these acts must imperatively be carried out by a competent health professional, at the risk of exposing oneself to a conviction of illegal practice of medicine or any other profession according to the act carried out
Independently of this case, Professor Joyeux is already the subject of another procedure before the Order of Physicians, for two anti-vaccine petitions that he had published on the internet in 2014 and 2015. In first instance, on July 8 2016, he was struck off by the disciplinary chamber of Languedoc-Roussillon. But on appeal, on June 26, 2018, he had been cleared by the national disciplinary chamber of the Order of Physicians, an independent body of the National Council. The latter then appealed to the Council of State, which quashed the cancellation of the radiation on July 24. Mr. Joyeux must therefore be retried before the Order, on a date which has not yet been fixed. https://www.sciencesetavenir.fr/sante/e
Another stupidity. sorry fakenews!
the merry Pr has never been anti-vaccines, but contesting the vaccine madness applied in any way and on anyone unnecessarily, it has never been anti anything, if not the other countries which impose nothing and have different vaccination schedules would be too.
The Bar Council pursues them "for violation in particular of articles 15 (research involving the human person), 39 (charlatanism) and 40 (unjustified risk) of the code of ethics", he said in a press release. This procedure can go as far as cancellation. In addition, the Council of the Order "took the decision to become a civil party in the criminal aspect of this case". Revealed on September 19, 2019 by the Medicines Agency (ANSM), which then denounced a "wild clinical trial", this case is the subject of a judicial investigation.
Another big bunch of nonsense. The decisions, whatever they are, are not the responsibility of this order, but of justice independent of these lobbies. However, an accusation and the facts are not equivalent.
As for the radiation, they are ridiculing themselves once again since no longer exercising it is like a company which would like to dismiss one of its former retired employees, but the ridiculous never stopped them.
For quackery, which corresponds to a precise and legal definition, and they will be sent to the wall because this definition is applicable to all the medical profession which uses drugs. For the rest, do not anticipate the law and justice.
According to the definition given by the terminology and neology commission for the health field, the medical act corresponds to "any act the performance of which, by verbal, written, physical or instrumental means, is performed by a member of a medical profession, within the framework of its exercise and the limits of its competence ”. Consequently, these acts must imperatively be carried out by a competent health professional, at the risk of exposing oneself to a conviction of illegal practice of medicine or any other profession according to the act carried out
Independently of this case, Professor Joyeux is already the subject of another procedure before the Order of Physicians, for two anti-vaccine petitions that he had published on the internet in 2014 and 2015. In first instance, on July 8 2016, he was struck off by the disciplinary chamber of Languedoc-Roussillon. But on appeal, on June 26, 2018, he had been cleared by the national disciplinary chamber of the Order of Physicians, an independent body of the National Council. The latter then appealed to the Council of State, which quashed the cancellation of the radiation on July 24. Mr. Joyeux must therefore be retried before the Order, on a date which has not yet been fixed. https://www.sciencesetavenir.fr/sante/e
Another stupidity. sorry fakenews!
the merry Pr has never been anti-vaccines, but contesting the vaccine madness applied in any way and on anyone unnecessarily, it has never been anti anything, if not the other countries which impose nothing and have different vaccination schedules would be too.
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Pr. Henri Joyeux reinstated in the Order of Physicians:
The Council of the Order of Physicians, which the profession finances without knowing what it is for ... has been in turmoil since long before the disastrous management of the SARS-cov-2 / Covid-19 health crisis: National Council, more and more more criticized, and this accelerated with the Raoult affair, which with the case of Prof. Joyeux, reveals that this institution uses scapegoats as instruments of diversion, caricaturing one " anti-vaccine »(While he is not), reproaching the other, by intervening members for "not having carried out a study on HCQ in the rules" (although he never announced having done one other than observational).
It must be said that the Council of the Order really needs it: it sees itself published against it damning reports on damning reports:
- here the Court of Auditors shocking the whole profession by revealing the offices with swimming pool, excessive and sumptuary expenses, paid volunteers ... In total disconnection with reality ...
- and there carrying out lawsuits of intention to scientific sizes above all suspicion ...
Although I partly agree with Janic's approach, in that I have enough interest in orthomolecular medicine.
The Council of the Order of Physicians, which the profession finances without knowing what it is for ... has been in turmoil since long before the disastrous management of the SARS-cov-2 / Covid-19 health crisis: National Council, more and more more criticized, and this accelerated with the Raoult affair, which with the case of Prof. Joyeux, reveals that this institution uses scapegoats as instruments of diversion, caricaturing one " anti-vaccine »(While he is not), reproaching the other, by intervening members for "not having carried out a study on HCQ in the rules" (although he never announced having done one other than observational).
It must be said that the Council of the Order really needs it: it sees itself published against it damning reports on damning reports:
- here the Court of Auditors shocking the whole profession by revealing the offices with swimming pool, excessive and sumptuary expenses, paid volunteers ... In total disconnection with reality ...
- and there carrying out lawsuits of intention to scientific sizes above all suspicion ...
Although I partly agree with Janic's approach, in that I have enough interest in orthomolecular medicine.
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Obamot wrote:Pr. Henri Joyeux reinstated in the Order of Physicians:
Your info is a bit dated. Since then, in 2019, the Council of State has canceled this decision and Dr. Joyeux must be retried for this case ... among others.
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Except you apparently don't know about the separation of powers? And so another gap, nothing to the judicial system:
And even, at 75 years old we don't give a damn ... Your ignorance has always made you miss the point.
We no longer even wonder why those who have lobbyist-type behavior post this type of comments!Professor Henri Joyeux wrote: I don't see how the disciplinary chamber nationale could deregister me after judging that I had not committed any ethical fault. These judges are independent and are not submitted to the Council of State to my knowledge.
And even, at 75 years old we don't give a damn ... Your ignorance has always made you miss the point.
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Even if he does not care, the public has the right to know that since then he has also been accused of charlatanism. https://www.leparisien.fr/societe/essai ... 166465.phpat 75 years old we don't give a damn ...
He is in the same vein as https://www.leparisien.fr/societe/l-inq ... 168934.php
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