Medical liability of doctors who would be involved in anti-Covid vaccination

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Re: Medical liability of doctors who would be involved in anti-Covid vaccination




by ABC2019 » 09/12/20, 07:37

Obamot wrote:
izentrop wrote:Until proven otherwise, the most important is the benefit / risk ratio. : Wink:


So much the better ....

Except that...

The vaccine does not protect against transmission ... Taah Daaaah! ...

this is not what is said in the video, what it says is that there is no result published for the moment on the issue of transmission. It doesn't mean it doesn't have an effect.
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Re: Medical liability of doctors who would be involved in anti-Covid vaccination




by ABC2019 » 09/12/20, 07:39

reinoso wrote:
izentrop wrote:Until proven otherwise, the most important is the benefit / risk ratio. : Wink:



where are the results detailed by age group so dear to the BA BA of the ABC


It does seem to me such an important question, imagine that the vaccine does not work on the over 65s, it would look thin ....

But a priori with 90% of efficiency measured on the average of the population that seems implausible.
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Re: Medical liability of doctors who would be involved in anti-Covid vaccination




by Janic » 09/12/20, 07:50

It does seem to me such an important question, imagine that the vaccine does not work on the over 65s, it would look thin ....

they will look fine!
But a priori with 90% of efficiency measured on the average of the population that seems implausible.
with 90% of average on a population at 90% without risk, they do not get too wet. We find their usual tricks to make believe that ...!
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Re: Medical liability of doctors who would be involved in anti-Covid vaccination




by reinoso » 09/12/20, 07:54

ABC2019 wrote:But a priori with 90% of efficiency measured on the average of the population that seems implausible.


and it is the crystal ball of the very, very great specialist in statistics who speaks of his enormously sophisticated and superbly scientific wet finger that has suddenly bypassed the studies by age groups
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Re: Medical liability of doctors who would be involved in anti-Covid vaccination




by ABC2019 » 09/12/20, 08:01

Janic wrote:
It does seem to me such an important question, imagine that the vaccine does not work on the over 65s, it would look thin ....

they will look fine!
But a priori with 90% of efficiency measured on the average of the population that seems implausible.
with 90% of average on a population at 90% without risk, they do not get too wet. We find their usual tricks to make believe that ...!

if it reduced contamination by 90%, it is because it also acted 90% on the 10% at risk.

Always good at math, Mr 15 CH ...
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Re: Medical liability of doctors who would be involved in anti-Covid vaccination




by ABC2019 » 09/12/20, 08:02

reinoso wrote:
ABC2019 wrote:But a priori with 90% of efficiency measured on the average of the population that seems implausible.


and it is the crystal ball of the very, very great specialist in statistics who speaks of his enormously sophisticated and superbly scientific wet finger that has suddenly bypassed the studies by age groups

I haven't bypassed anything at all, and I've never said anything about vaccines, I'm waiting to see reliable (i.e. randomized) studies come out, as with all the treatments offered.
I don't see any technical difficulty in classifying the results of randomized studies by age group, however. There is no need to redo new studies, just to consider the age of the patients in the database.
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Re: Medical liability of doctors who would be involved in anti-Covid vaccination




by ENERC » 09/12/20, 08:20

Data from the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine was posted on the FDA website here: https://www.fda.gov/media/144245/download
50 pages of data and tables.
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Re: Medical liability of doctors who would be involved in anti-Covid vaccination




by Janic » 09/12/20, 08:31

I haven't bypassed anything at all, and I've never said anything about vaccines, I'm waiting to see reliable (i.e. randomized) studies come out, as with all the treatments offered.
I don't see any technical difficulty in classifying the results of randomized studies by age group, however. There is no need to redo new studies, just to consider the age of the patients in the database.
they will have plenty of reliable studies when the epidemic has disappeared for a few decades and that there will be plenty of individual testimonies identified by pharmacovigilance. With that the current patients will be well advanced: studies instead of treatment; NUL FROM NUL! : Twisted:
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Re: Medical liability of doctors who would be involved in anti-Covid vaccination




by Obamot » 09/12/20, 11:16

ABC2019 wrote:
Obamot wrote:
izentrop wrote:Until proven otherwise, the most important is the benefit / risk ratio. : Wink:


So much the better ....

Except that...

The vaccine does not protect against transmission ... Taah Daaaah! ...

this is not what is said in the video, what it says is that there is no result published for the moment on the issue of transmission. It doesn't mean it doesn't have an effect.

You mean all people are going to get vaccinated without knowing if it's any good? We will therefore take such a risk of being vaccinated to hundreds of millions of people blindly!

The “double blind” tests must be replaced by BLIND TESTS : Cheesy: : Cheesy: : Cheesy: it is more appropriate!

Weren't you the one who quibbled by grumbling for months to have the senior age group in the IHU results on the HCQ?

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Re: Medical liability of doctors who would be involved in anti-Covid vaccination




by Christophe » 09/12/20, 22:20

ENERC wrote:Data from the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine was posted on the FDA website here: https://www.fda.gov/media/144245/download
50 pages of data and tables.


Thank you, but it's not a peer-reviewed study ... I'm not wasting my time with that ... : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:

Then when I read this on the 1st page ...

Sponsor: Pfizer and BioNTech


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Well at least it's fair to say it!
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