Ivermectin Reviews? Drug 99,8% effective in 48 hours against COVID-19?
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You compare what is not comparable. There it is often arbitrary. For doctors, it is for a valid reason: the prescription of drugs that have not been proven against the Covid, but depriving the patients who really need them.
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izentrop wrote:You compare what is not comparable. There it is often arbitrary. For doctors, it is for a valid reason: the prescription of drugs that have not been proven against the Covid, but depriving the patients who really need them.
With us the standard of care is doliprane ...
Except that in other countries the senior health authorities sometimes have other points of view.
Can you respect these points of view or is it beyond your competence?
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Each is master in his country.
If clichés having a certain power want to impose a crap, it is their right.
But OK ! the evidence for drug efficacy is the same everywhere. And then there is the internet today, sufficiently educated people no longer let themselves be fooled by fake news or false promises à la Raoult, provided they have the means to be treated elsewhere by more competent people.
If clichés having a certain power want to impose a crap, it is their right.
But OK ! the evidence for drug efficacy is the same everywhere. And then there is the internet today, sufficiently educated people no longer let themselves be fooled by fake news or false promises à la Raoult, provided they have the means to be treated elsewhere by more competent people.
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izentrop wrote:Each is master in his country.
If clichés having a certain power want to impose a crap, it is their right.
But OK ! the evidence for drug efficacy is the same everywhere. And then there is the internet today, sufficiently educated people no longer let themselves be fooled by fake news, provided they have the means to be treated elsewhere by more competent.
This is what each sovereign government chooses its treatments against covid independently ... we are no longer in the days of the colonies.
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The less despotic and more intelligent follow the recommendations of a scientific council, see the WHO and do not impose on its caregivers a remedy that has not scientifically proven its effectiveness.
Until then, ivermectin has been an antiparasitic https://www.who.int/apoc/cdti/ivermectin/fr/. If they want to use it as a placebo, it has no side effect unlike HCQ.
Until then, ivermectin has been an antiparasitic https://www.who.int/apoc/cdti/ivermectin/fr/. If they want to use it as a placebo, it has no side effect unlike HCQ.
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izentrop wrote:the evidence for drug efficacy is the same everywhere. And then there is the internet today, people with enough education no longer let themselves be fooled by fake news or false promises.à la Raoult, provided they have the means to be treated elsewhere by a more competent person.
Here you are totally contradicting yourself, educated people have realized by going, precisely on the internet, the scandal of pharmas such as Gilead to finance bogus studies against the molecule, it is a proven and proven fact. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31180-6/fulltext and these people are overwhelmingly in the majority (which does not make me happy, because your words are immensely absurd to someone who claims to be logical ...
... and Izentrop-style populism in medicine, it makes you laugh gently)
About WHO you are not able to understand how they work, but you interpret their position in the way that suits you when it suits you!
You are therefore incredibly bad faith, and what I have been saying for a long time, a rare lack of discernment.
For the rest, you fully confirm that politics has taken precedence over the medical world (with regard to anti-covid19 measures, which I have highlighted and proven here for 3 months), suddenly all your beautiful demonstrations Your world of care bears from randomized double-blind studies is totally collapsing. I am not saying that I am against serious studies, but that you just are not able to put things right, to understand that the financial stakes have skewed the whole system, and moreover, of a bias. appalling, you are much worse than the “pro-Raoults” whom you criticize so much (and of which I am not one).
Really lamentable, but if your positions have smelled bad for years, then you hit the zero threshold.
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Through the voice of its Minister of Health, Peru in turn drops hydroxychloroquine in favor of ivermectin
Peru's Health Min: Hydroxychloroquine to be withdrawn from COVID-19 treatment guide
At least, it's clear...
It's just going to force anti-treatments to lay negative studies.
And off we go for a ride
Peru's Health Min: Hydroxychloroquine to be withdrawn from COVID-19 treatment guide
"As long as there is nothing conclusive telling us that it does not work, we will continue to use it as it is used in other countries," she said.
At least, it's clear...
It's just going to force anti-treatments to lay negative studies.
And off we go for a ride
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It was time:Adrien (ex-nico239) wrote:Through the voice of its Minister of Health, Peru in turn drops hydroxychloroquine
"Peru has the highest COVID-19 death rate in the world" (despite a median age of 28, well below our Western countries)
http://www.granma.cu/mundo/2020-08-31/e ... 0-10-08-43
It didn't work out well, it seems.
Precision: They continue the ivermectin but had started the use of this molecule at the same time as the HCQ.Adrien (ex-nico239) wrote:in favor of ivermectin
"On May 8, ministerial resolution n ° 270-2020-MINSA appears which modifies the technical document" Prevention, diagnosis and treatment of people affected by COVID-19 in Peru ", and which includes for the first time the use of hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, azithromizine and chloroquine phosphate for mild, moderate or severe cases "
On the other hand, they have no certainty and without giving yet "hope":
"It must be clear that COVID-19 treatment does not exist. There is no treatment that can stop the infection. There's no. Globally, there is the compassionate use of drugs in hope - since they reduce the viral load in vitro - so that they can help us reduce the viral load in humans, "she said."
Their former minister of health is not too confident:
"As the Minister of Health announces that hydroxychloroquine will be withdrawn from the drug guide for COVID-19, the former sector head calls for ivermectin to also be withdrawn"
https://elcomercio.pe/tecnologia/cienci ... a/?ref=ecr
He has changed his point of view compared to when he was in charge at the start of the crisis but we understand why when we see the results in his country ...
Adrien (ex-nico239) wrote:At least, it's clear...
It's just going to force anti-treatments to lay negative studies.
A pre-print study was recently removed preprint server due to concerns about the data used by the study authors. The study derived data from the database Surgisphere, an analytics company that claimed to have assembled large and detailed databases including real-time medical records from numerous hospitals around the world. The authors claimed that these data showed that the use of ivermectin in patients with COVID-19 was accompanied by an reduction in mortality
https://www.nps.org.au/news/ivermectin- ... 19-for-hps
Surgisphere? Study in favor of ivermectin? Well...
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Would you like to break sugar on the back of hydroxychloroquine?
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Adrien (ex-nico239) wrote:Would you like to break sugar on the back of hydroxychloroquine?
No. They tried. They stop.
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