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by Christophe » 08/01/13, 00:11

Phthalates and ants do not mix well either: https://www.econologie.com/forums/post248475.html#248475
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by Janic » 08/01/13, 08:45

another aspect of endocrine disruptors is their influence on sexual changes in humans and indeed for their sexual attractions as well. I know that this is a taboo subject for some, but the growing homosexuality is perhaps one of the consequences of the very fact that it is noted in other animals. For this, we need comparative studies between population with low consumption of disrupters (so-called primitive population, organic consumers, etc.) and the ratio. In case of no difference it would confirm or disprove this tendency.
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by sen-no-sen » 08/01/13, 13:03

Janic wrote:another aspect of endocrine disruptors is their influence on sexual changes in humans and indeed for their sexual attractions as well. I know that this is a taboo subject for some, but the growing homosexuality is perhaps one of the consequences of the very fact that it is noted in other animals. For this, we need comparative studies between population with low consumption of disrupters (so-called primitive population, organic consumers, etc.) and the ratio. In case of no difference it would confirm or disprove this tendency.


Pediatricians find more and more cases of early puberty (before 8 years in girls and 10 years in boys), the cause would be its famous endocrine disruptors (excluding specific medical cases such as infection or malformation).
However, we cannot speak of "homosexuality is booming", it is once again a media effect.
There was as much homosexual before, but religious taboo obliges, the subject was hidden.
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by Janic » 08/01/13, 13:53

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However, we cannot speak of "homosexuality is booming", it is once again a media effect.
There was as much homosexual before, but religious taboo obliges, the subject was hidden.
it is indisputable that the media effect is present and that the display in broad daylight has resulted in the more visible expression of this sexuality. This is why it would be interesting (perhaps it exists) for targeted studies to be carried out on this subject to estimate the various parameters of this situation. Homosexuality is not a uniquely human fact and is also found in other animals (or at least attempted homosexuality) since sexuality is dependent on hormonal functions. So these disruptors are probably involved, but in what proportion? if it is 1 or 2%, it is negligible, if it is 20 or 30% (more or less) it is a real problem of health and not of "moral".
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by sen-no-sen » 08/01/13, 14:11

Janic wrote:it is indisputable that the media effect is present and that the public display has had the effect of the more visible expression of this sexuality. That is why it would be interesting (perhaps it exists) that targeted studies be done on this subject to estimate the various parameters of this situation.


Yes indeed it would be very interesting.
The problem is that it is a delicate subject.
A number of scientists have established a relationship between genetics and homosexuality, whereas for a long time they favored the Freudian thesis (largely invalid).
This has earned them (despite the quality of work) attacks from all sides of the Gay and Lesbian community ... all the truth is not good to say!

Indeed to recognize that homosexuality would be of genetic origin or accentuated by disturbers, would imply that the latter would be a "defect", which will recall some bad moment in history (Nazism).
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by chatelot16 » 08/01/13, 15:27

is it possible to ban phthalate?

it should already be properly informed of their use

the only one I know: PVC plasticizer: it is this plasticizer that transforms rigid pvc into soft pvc, inflatable object type or truck tarpaulin

phthalate is not the only known plasticizer ... there are others but more expensive or less effective

there is phthalate in the soft toy in pvc ... one could use other soft material kind silicone or polyurethane alas more expensive
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by Janic » 09/01/13, 10:36

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Yes indeed it would be very interesting.
The problem is that it is a delicate subject.
A number of scientists have established a relationship between genetics and homosexuality, whereas for a long time they favored the Freudian thesis (largely invalid).
This has earned them (despite the quality of work) attacks from all sides of the Gay and Lesbian community ... all the truth is not good to say!


Or rather "not all truths are good to hear"
If you have references of these works I am interested.
Indeed to recognize that homosexuality would be of genetic origin or accentuated by disturbers, would imply that the latter would be a "defect", which will recall some bad moment in history (Nazism).

In fact, the individual lives psychologically with difficulty if he thinks he is the victim of a defect of Mother Nature, moreover, more or less condemned by the "morality" of the moment. But we must not turn a victim into a culprit, which is all too often the case, as is the case with those who are overweight and can only "support" themselves by self-justifying their condition, of which they may be partly responsible. cause, but which can also be genetic as well as sociocultural. These obese people put on the bench of society meet and defend their right to live like any other without a value judgment on their condition. Homosexuality and other situations are in this case: to be recognized and accepted without discrimination.
The disadvantage is that if (and only if) their condition is related to poisoning by various products invented by our manufacturers, the individual is no longer trying to avoid this poisoning and can endorse a dramatic health situation. In some ways there could be on the one hand true homosexuals by birth and on the other hand fake homosexuals by intoxication.
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by sen-no-sen » 09/01/13, 15:33

Janic wrote:If you have references of these works I am interested.


Jacques Balthazart Director of the Research Group in Behavioral Neuroendocrinology (University of Liège, Belgium) wrote a book on the subject:Biology of homosexuality.

See the following article:
http://www.lemonde.fr/planete/article/2010/02/04/l-homosexualite-est-genetique-selon-un-chercheur_1301366_3244.html

But also the work of researchers George Rice, Carol Anderson, Neil Risch and George Ebers published in the scientific journal Nature(in french):
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/284/5414/571.summary

After his studies do not claim that this is the only factor, it would be wiser to talk about predispositions, because an individual is not limited to only genetic traits.

With respect to interactions related to endocrine disruptors and other chemical pollutants, some researchers have made links between its products and malformations and / or disorder of sexual behavior in animals.
Read about it on the blog of Marie-Monique Robin:
Theo Colborn also met Glen Fox, a birdwatcher who observed a strange phenomenon in the herring gull colonies of Lakes Ontario and Michigan: from the 1970 years, the nests have twice as many eggs as what is found normally because they are occupied by two females rather than a male-female couple. "Fox nicknamed them" gay gulls ", told me Theo, because he discovered a problem of sexual identity in males and females due to their contamination by DDT, which like PCBs, acts as an estrogenic hormone. At the same time, biologists Richard Aulerich and Robert Ringer note the near-extinction of mink that feed mainly on fish, which are filled with PCBs.

http://robin.blog.arte.tv/2011/04/26/perturbateurs-endocriniens-l%E2%80%99etau-se-resserre/
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by Janic » 09/01/13, 16:34

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