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Re: Hold up VS the factory of lies




by ABC2019 » 16/04/21, 14:40

yes and I asked you if you believed that the Pfizer tests were all rigged and that the doses administered by Israel were in fact useless?
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Re: Hold up VS the factory of lies




by Obamot » 16/04/21, 14:43

I don't know, I don't play politics.

I was talking about this : Arrowd: : Arrowd: : Arrowd:

Obamot wrote:Do you understand why we can think that your posts are worth peanuts in the face of such contradictions? On the one hand you're hyper demanding by quibbling over the smallest comma driven by a skepticism “worthy of a banker on the granting of a loan” when it is not in your views (HCQ, etc), but on a subject acquired in your cause (vaccinations) you are not very 'watching'(um, that's an understatement!)
Now it's proven, thank you again!
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Re: Hold up VS the factory of lies




by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 16/04/21, 14:47

ABC2019 wrote:that's what I'm saying, why do you ask for sources, then say that you don't believe it?

tell me what you think are credible sources on vaccines, and then we can talk about it again.

Since there are no other sources than those provided by the manufacturers / sellers, I do not see why to talk about it again ...

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Re: Hold up VS the factory of lies




by ABC2019 » 16/04/21, 14:47

Obamot wrote:I don't know, I don't play politics.

I was talking about this : Arrowd: : Arrowd: : Arrowd:

Obamot wrote:Do you understand why we can think that your posts are worth peanuts in the face of such contradictions? On the one hand you're hyper demanding by quibbling over the smallest comma driven by a skepticism “worthy of a banker on the granting of a loan” when it is not in your views (HCQ, etc), but on a subject acquired in your cause (vaccinations) you are not very 'watching'(um, that's an understatement!)
Now it's proven, thank you again!


not at all, I apply exactly the same criteria, I ask if there are any published double-blind tests that measure real efficacy that's all. And it is the same demand for both.

For vaccines the answer is yes, for HCQ the answer is no, it is that simple, but I am not more suspicious or skeptical of either, if the tests are published, I have a priori that they are correct.

If you think the tests are rigged, it is up to you to provide the evidence to substantiate these charges. For my part, I have not accused double-blind tests on large numbers made on the HCQ and showing an effectiveness of being rigged. For good reason, there is none.
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Re: Hold up VS the factory of lies




by ABC2019 » 16/04/21, 14:49

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:
ABC2019 wrote:that's what I'm saying, why do you ask for sources, then say that you don't believe it?

tell me what you think are credible sources on vaccines, and then we can talk about it again.

Since there are no other sources than those provided by the manufacturers / sellers, I do not see why to talk about it again ...


So, do you think Israel bought and inoculated millions of doses to its people unnecessarily?

I always ask the question: for what purpose?
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Re: Hold up VS the factory of lies




by Janic » 16/04/21, 14:54

pedrobac
so you think Pfizer vaccines are ineffective,
We will not really know until after the crisis which may last a few more years
and that for example Israel bought and administered millions of doses to its people without any interest
it is the role of government officials to reassure worried populations with what they have at hand, [*] namely a new product currently being tested
(by denying them the passage to the Palestinians)?
There it is mainly political, not health
is that your position?
this is YOUR position!
you can tell me for what purpose?
business, business, business! : Cheesy:

[*] genre AZT for AIDS
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by ABC2019 » 16/04/21, 14:55

Janic wrote:business, business, business! : Cheesy:

What do you mean the Israeli government makes money buying vaccines? : Shock:
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Re: Hold up VS the factory of lies




by Janic » 16/04/21, 14:59

What do you mean the Israeli government makes money buying vaccines? : Shock:
hi, hi, ah, ah, oh, oh! Governments pay to reassure the good fearful people, and they spit at the bottom, that's the business!
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Re: Hold up VS the factory of lies




by Obamot » 16/04/21, 15:00

ABC2019 wrote:
Obamot wrote:I don't know, I don't play politics.

I was talking about this : Arrowd: : Arrowd: : Arrowd:

Obamot wrote:Do you understand why we can think that your posts are worth peanuts in the face of such contradictions? On the one hand you're hyper demanding by quibbling over the smallest comma driven by a skepticism “worthy of a banker on the granting of a loan” when it is not in your views (HCQ, etc), but on a subject acquired in your cause (vaccinations) you are not very 'watching'(um, that's an understatement!)
Now it's proven, thank you again!


not at all, I apply exactly the same criteria, [...] blah-blah-blah

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No. A single test provided by the lab that made the vaccine is worth peanuts, you have just proven your compromise!

Thanks again !
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Re: Hold up VS the factory of lies




by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 16/04/21, 15:05

ABC2019 wrote:
Janic wrote:business, business, business! : Cheesy:

What do you mean the Israeli government makes money buying vaccines? : Shock:

The government is not losing money since it is the people who are raiding. On the other hand, the labs take advantage of this enormous "runoff". A bit like with Remdesivir (mutagenic, dangerous, ineffective) for which the Europeans have banked almost a billion for plums.
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