Electromagnetic waves and pollution: general public health guide to understand

[Christophe]

Ah yes ... that can be a public health problem!

Did you see the news and video on the subject?

If it is there: https://www.econologie.com/electricite-l ... -3885.html

topic: https://www.econologie.com/forums/edf-lignes ... t5873.html

As you know the field, you can already do the same tests yourself with basic equipment but you can also have a more detailed diagnosis done by a specialist! For telephony in France, it's free (at least it was) and mandatory to be done by simple request to the operator owner of the relay in question, there may be an equivalent for EDF!

I had one made in 2002!

[nlc]

Ah yes, we also have a relay antenna at 50m

[dedeleco]

Christophe:

I am still waiting for studies on the health impact of fluorescent tubes that have been used for over 80 years. Obviously you do not have one.

Long non-compact fluoluminescents tubes are used for more than 80 years have a simple diet with less different wave as supplied by the industry, without the high frequency inverter that feeds the fluorescent lamps and gives enough with coils high frequency of high fields outside the norms for computers at short distance like 30cm, or even less !!

Finally, given the difference, put these compact fluorescent lamps with converter, the further our heads, at least one meter (decreases as the cube of the distance, field of a magnetic dipole, with the induction which gives V / m, or 27 times less to 3 times further) !! ! ( and at 10 cm, we suffer 27 times more !!)

Do not put them in bedside lamps near the head (especially children with growing brains) where we read in bed or too close to a desk to light !!
Even if one is not disturbed in appearance (my case), our brain, close to such a lamp for days and days and years, may be disrupted in the long term, with unpredictable consequences completely, because varies with the exact frequency !!
30V / m from 30cm to fluorescent lamps is 300 mV / cm in our brain, tension comparable to that of an electric battery on a few cm that it is enough to disrupt our brain strongly (try 1,5V or 4,5V on your tongue on few cm !!!).
So logically, scientifically, it is better to be careful and stay away from these lamps, at least 1m !!!!

We have cells magnetic corpuscles in our brain, like many other animals, and the pigeons who use them more and better than us !!!
These cells undergo forces which therefore detect magnetic fields, directly, in addition to induced voltages, which are also detected by the ion channels of the cells, like for example our tongue or the frog muscles !!
Besides mercury pollution is 5 mG per lamp and so with at least 10 lamps French was 3 tons of mercury to bring in waste instead of throwing it and breathe in the fumes of incinerators !!!

So be careful !!!!
And happy New Year !!!

[dedeleco]

Ah yes, we also have a relay antenna at 50m

Organic fairly simple test over 21 days !!
incubate eggs to have chicks and count the number of eggs that do not hatch, 50m from the antenna and far away from someone in your family !!!

Breeders are full of large numbers lacking hatching !!
With the right to put up to 500KW on simple declaration on antennas, we wonder with the equivalent of 499 microwave ovens open on these antennas !!
In addition, modulated in pulses at around 10 hertz, frequency typical of our brain !!!! while microwave ovens are not modulated !!

[kumkat]

and the issue of TV relay? who are otherwise more powerful given the distance at which they emit? not we talk about it?

[dedeleco]

The TV antennas, emit continuously and not pulses with stack components in the frequencies of our brains close to 10Hertz !!
This difference is enormous.
These antennas are far fewer TV.
In addition, for the same range, the transmitted powers are lower, because the portable ones to be reachable require much more, than what receive the TVs (smaller antennas, etc.).

[Christophe]

There are plenty of other doc available on the site by typing "waves" here: http://www.health.belgium.be/eportal/Se ... /index.htm

Potential biological effects of modulated microwaves (February 2008) (CSS 8194)
100%

The use of microwave ovens (October 1999) (CSH 6605)
100%

GSM, mobile phone safely? (November 2002) (CSH 6605-5)
95%

Radio waves and use of GSM
93%

What are radio waves? * Do radio waves from mobile phones and GSM antennas affect my health? ...

Potential biological effects of modulated microwaves (February 2008) (CSS 8194) [Appendices 1 to 7]
89%

CSH opinion on the Royal Decree project setting the standard for antennas emitting electromagnetic waves between 10MHz and 10 GHz (March 2005) (CSH 8103)
75%

CSH opinion on the draft Royal Decree setting the standard for antennas emitting electromagnetic waves between 10 MHz and 10 GHz (October 2000) (CSH 6605)
72%

CSH opinion on the proposal for an Order amending the Royal Order of 29 April 2001 setting the standard for antennas emitting electromagnetic waves between 10 MHz and 10 GHz (December 2001) (CSH 6605)
72%

Radio waves and use of GSM
72%

The new section 'electromagnetic fields' first informs you about the health effects of radio waves from mobile phones and gsm antennas as well as the preventive measures taken by the Belgian authorities.

The CSS reiterates its recommendation of 3 V / m for antennas transmitting radio waves
71%

In response to a request from Minister Laurette Onkelinx concerning an arrest by GSM Operators' Forum (GOF) on the recommendations issued regarding radio wave transmitting antennas,

(...)

The one titled Potential biological effects of modulated microwaves (February 2008) (CSS 8194) is particularly complete, I save it here: https://www.econologie.info/share/partag ... VhWEGa.pdf

TABLE OF CONTENTS

INTRODUCTION AND QUESTION
1.
2. DEVELOPMENT AND ARGUMENT
2.1. Technical characteristics of the modulated waves
2.2. Measurement of exposure to picocells and microcells, DECT stations and the Astrid network.
2.3. Risk indicators for biological effects and health problems
2.3.1. General context
2.3.2. Literature review on biological and health effects
2.4. Possible causal links between exposure and biological effect
2.4.1. TNO and Swiss studies on the effects of modulated signals
2.4.2. Effects on the blood-brain barrier
2.4.3. Demodulation and application to biological systems
3. CONCLUSION AND RECOMMENDATIONS
4. REFERENCES
5. ANNEX (S)
6. RECOMMENDATIONS FOR RESEARCH
7. COMPOSITION OF THE WORKING GROUP

3. CONCLUSION

The CSS limited its work with a view to the question posed by the Minister, relating to the pulsed and modulated nature of radiation. He was particularly interested in the possible differences between exposure to digitally modulated waves used in modern communications systems and exposure to analog modulated waves.

The RF fields with modulating properties produced by all types of emitters (macrocells, microcells, picocells) and to which the population - as a whole - can be exposed are low compared to national and international exposure standards. These fields are also substantially weaker than the RF fields produced by hand-held devices. He found that there is no evidence that these waves have a health effect, but that there are a number of indications of caution. The issue will continue to be watched very carefully.

Read also the message of dede + answers https://www.econologie.com/forums/post203308.html#203308

And watch or watch this full documentary in French of 53 min: https://www.econologie.com/video-telepho ... -2444.html ou http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz0J0Fvzt3s

[dedeleco]

To read all the scientific studies reports of the innumerable dangerous products and effects, the worst is not on children already born, but on fetuses during gestation, between 1 and 2 and 3 months, in full formation, especially around the 43rd week for bisphenol A (similar to distilbene) and other junk that easily soaks our food, and also the phone waves.

This is clear for telephones and antennas by their deadly action on the gestation of chick eggs, subjected to these waves, studies almost stifled by telephone operators, as the magnificent report shows: Bad Waves on Arte of this complementary week of the book: Our Daily Poison, Responsibilities in the Chronic Disease Epidemic, by Marie Monique Robin ed La Découverte Arte Editions, which I urge all of us to read carefully, because we are all concerned and have an interest in becoming aware of these hidden risks, linked to technological progress.


For pregnant women, from the first days and before, it is necessary avoid accumulating the factors of these risks, tobacco, alcohol, dietary imbalance, bisphenil A (time bomb in cans and flexible packaging, receipts, not just baby bottles, polycarbonates in 65% of cases), industrial and non-organic food, mobile phones and telephone antennas, strong electric fields, aspartame, pesticides, herbicides, depleted uranium, even in France, test centers, benzene in petrol, neurotoxins that replace ammonia and paraben in household disinfectants for kitchen and tiles and sun and beauty products, etc ....., endless.

The effects are after in their life, 30, 40 years later, epidemic of chronic diseases, more cancers, on generations like this, even small children !!

The effects on already born children are significantly weaker than on the fetuses but stronger than on adults statistically.

We'd better talk about it more on the media rather than bashing ourselves with DSK, or the terrorists.

[dedeleco]

I put here more appropriate, this remark put on
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post203344.html#203344
in response to this
this sentence which criticizes studies without precise figures:
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post203318.html#203318

On the other hand the eggs of chickens probably suffered from hyperthermia because of the microwaves, which made abort the fetus, this experience is extreme

reproduces the manipulation by telephone operators to delay (7 years) and stifle by lies all the studies in France on the dangerous effects of telephone waves at the current level !!
The method is identical to the lies for asbestos, tobacco, etc ..
We take out anything to block and suffocate awareness of reality.

30, 40 or more years ago, with the same type of delaying lies, the industry denied the dangers of tobacco by the same method, to the point that we distributed full packs of cigarettes to all 20 year olds doing their military service !!
I knew, and I did not touch it !!
I explained the obvious for nothing at the time !!!

It is a pure lie, because the thermal effect is very easy to measure, calculate and therefore reduce to very little, or to study without the slightest wave.

The athermal effects are very complex, biological to study and discover, and therefore very easy to discredit in front of readers who cannot spend their time understanding the subtleties of living beings.

I gave an argument very simple to understand, the tension undergone by the cells, if the living cells rectify so little that it is the induced microwave currents, becomes higher than those being used to communicate between neurons of the brain, and thus disturb them seriously , identical phenomenon in the mechanism to that presented by Padawan in a microwave oven
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post203305.html#203305
, and that lights up neon lights like brain cells (except that the neon voltages are in the 50V to 200V, and not 10mv to 100mV of the living cells, 1000 times higher, and therefore microwave power of KW instead of Watt for laptops. !!
In addition, their repetition frequency of approximately 10 Hertz is stack in those of brain cells, accentuating the effects.

padawan,
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post203305.html#203305
shows us visible with neon lights, what our brain cells undergo with cell phone waves, and therefore edemas and cancers in the long run, as well on the brains of rats as we, shown in the report of Arte Bad Waves !!!

In addition, there is a contradiction, because the current standards are based on the max to have a very low heating, negligible, which allows the maximum of 47V / m with low heating without effect, but as soon as it is about incubated eggs, operators lie that this very weak heating becomes very strong for these eggs, without ever giving a precise figure (within 0,1 ° C) lower than the temperature fluctuations of incubators or incubating hens !!

This analysis shows the method: we get out anything complicated, without being afraid of contradictions, not very visible without getting tired of thinking, just sowing doubt and stifling the weight of the lobby !!

And as with asbestos, tobacco, pesticides, Mediator, etc .. we delay by a few decades, awareness of the dangers, with hundreds, even millions, of unnecessary and hidden deaths !!

[dedeleco]

I put here in the subject my HS interventions on
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post203308.html#203308
just to help raise awareness of this reality:
The video :
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post203305.html#203305sur :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxI1ZjLLdb8

Pure microwave effect, sometimes dangerous, by the Faraday induction mechanism dating from 1830, below the excessive heating to be seen to reflect:
Cooking in the microwave may be different from that of heating over an ordinary fire.

Why a Microwave Oven Is Bad for Your Health Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZgiouEHB-A&NR=1
Why a Microwave Oven Is Bad for Your Health Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0GNh4n0 ... re=related

http://www.emfnews.org/

http://www.robindestoits.org/

The effect of the waves from portable and relay antennas is of the same type, more serious, on brain cells with edemas and cancer, scientifically proven as reported in the program on Arte les Mauvaises Ondes this week.
The voltages induced and rectified even very partially, as soon as they exceed a few tens of mV are of the same order of magnitude as the voltages of living cells like the neurons and seriously disturb them, well before a noticeable heating !!
The hash frequency of 10Hertz, moreover falls right into those of the brain, aggravating the dangers.

The current limit of 47V per meter is significant and exceeds these few tens of mV over distances of 1 / 4700m, ie below the mm, and therefore our cells are easily disturbed, especially the fetus, chick or human, with dead and miscarriages !!

The requested limit of 0,6V per meter is much safer, approximately 100 times lower, i.e. the range of tens of mV is reached for approximately 100mm, size of the brain, instead of mm and therefore, above the internal structures of the brain, cannot not disturb the brain by high voltages between small brain structures like the legal limit of 47V / m.

It is frightening that the telephone operators never use this remark based on Faraday's law of 1830, applied to our brain !!
This Faraday induction law is however the basis of mobile phones and it shows their total bad faith !!


It is criminal that the telephone operators refuse to consider these dangers, and the report of bad waves clearly shows the bad conscience of the persons in charge for the mobile telephony by their silence and refusal to answer with coherence !!
We will have a scandal as for asbestos delayed by the time of incubation and the time of awareness.


and also a response to a common objection from telephone operators to make believe that there is no danger of an antenna just above his head, emitting like wide open microwave ovens but with a perfect dipole:
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post203316.html#203316

Dipole radiation is anisotropic, living just below the antenna is almost harmless

in theory, never exact in reality, because always with complex disturbances, other metallic parts, pylon of the antenna, concrete iron, components of quadrupolar radiation, of higher order, etc.
In addition there are antennas with many inhabitants in the building opposite sometimes less than 20 m (width of a street in town) and even closer in the building next door !!!!

So you have to be very wary of perfect scientific certainties intended to put us to sleep with a perfect dipole of an antenna which emits power worthy of wide open microwaves (which has no coupling with a good antenna) !!

The report shows people in the country with more chicks born only after installing the antenna at 40m next and with false human layers.

It shows edemas and cancer !!

Fetuses are hyper sensitive and avoid studies to investigate the effects on them often, as delay of 7 years publishing confirmation that goes unnoticed !! etc ..

There are striking phrases from this lobby:

I don't think you should call the chicken eggs

but we can make our brain call !!
by one who delayed the publication of the death of these confirmation chicks by 7 years !!
And blocked publication of edemas in rats by its suffocating notoriety !!
Edemas which exist in Sweden but not in France !!!

It is comparable to the Chernobyl cloud which becomes harmless when crossing the Alsace border !!

It is the same method of concealment and lobbying, as for the Picks, pollution, pesticides, asbestos, tobacco, herbicides, GMOs, bisphenol A classified time bomb comparable to distylbene (I was not aware of it), aspartame, nuclear, etc.
(read our Daily Poison, remarkable report!)

I was wondering if we couldn't be in town go through "wifi".

has the same risks as quite similar, modulated and therefore it is advisable to turn off the wifi on his PC, which makes us swim in Microwaves even more than laptops, because the transmitter is local and works continuously.
do not sleep with your mobile phone near your bed, because it works without pulse stop connected to the neighboring antenna.
By pulses, the peak is as powerful as in continuous operation and the associated peak of tensions and disturbances is also disruptive for our cells, even once per minute only, while it does not heat anything at all !!