Is Germany (already) using Plaquenil (Chloroquine) against Covid-19?

[Christophe]

10 mg per m3 ... so around 1,2 kg of air this seems extremely low *: radium and cesium are less toxic!?!

* 10 / 1 * 200% by mass!

[VetusLignum]

Other negative news from the US side:
1) The preliminary results of a study on 600 patients according to which the association hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin does not improve the chances of survival. Except again, it is not known at what stage the treatment was administered.
2) A study on 84 patients showing that this association could cause heart problems, the consequence of which was that the FDA disapproved the prescription of this association by general practitioners.

Note that the first study did not detect any heart problems; and that all of this negative news seems to be very much against Trump.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/23/heal ... rus-study/
https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/24/fda ... -by-trump/
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0888-2

[ENERC]

Attention the lethal dose of ozone is around 10 mg per m3. It is a very dangerous gas even in low concentrations, and it burns the lungs.

Source? Breathed how long?

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone
Ecotoxicology
LC50 8 to 12 mgm-3
Low smell threshold: 0,0076 ppm
high: 0,03 ppm

It is not for nothing that the limit not to be exceeded is 200µg per m3.

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

Other negative news from the US side:
1) The preliminary results of a study on 600 patients according to which the association hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin does not improve the chances of survival. Except again, it is not known at what stage the treatment was administered.
2) A study on 84 patients showing that this association could cause heart problems, the consequence of which was that the FDA disapproved the prescription of this association by general practitioners.

Note that the first study did not detect any heart problems; and that all of this negative news seems to be very much against Trump.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/23/heal ... rus-study/
https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/24/fda ... -by-trump/
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0888-2

Whatever the continent now, the health of individuals comes after business (business which includes: money, power, politics, business ...)

You just have to see the report on artemisia ...

Finally good in agriculture as Jean Bouise would have said, we have known this for a long time also

[Julienmos]

disciplined the Germans?

on the banks of the Elbe, Hamburg ...

https://www.wetter.de/cms/froehliches-b ... tml?c=bf76

[Julienmos]

I was not sure in which thread to put this
but the famous (and controversial) pr Joyeux is optimistic against the covid

https://www.famillessanteprevention.org ... ootId=1154

where he also says (what I didn't know)

"finally a general practitioner can prescribe hydroxychloroquine with the usual precautions"

[Did67]

Yes. But it is a truncated sentence (or expression of an idea): for indications that are part of the Marketing Authorization.

"The prescription and dispensing in pharmacies of Plaquenil® are authorized only in the indications of the Marketing Authorization: rheumatoid arthritis, lupus erythematosus (discoid and subacute), systemic lupus and lucitis."

et

"For the care of patients with COVID-19, it is requested to respect the latest recommendations of the High Council of Public Health published on March 24 which, in the state of current scientific knowledge, recommends reserving the use of Plaquenil®, where applicable, exclusively for patients treated in healthcare establishments. "

Sanofi says it! https://www.sanofi.fr/fr/Actualites/act ... -plaquenil

You will think what you want, these manipulators who lie for a little notoriety on the networks. For me, to vomit !!!

Afterwards, a doctor in conscience, prescribed. And do not risk much in practice. In the event of death, there is expertise, second opinion, Raoult against Delfraissy and, in criminal proceedings, the court will conclude that in the state of knowledge, we did not know and therefore that the offense is not characterized. The Order of Physicians will cover (when have we seen the pairs condemn a doctor, even a butcher?). And last but not least, there will be a civil lawsuit ("damages"), covered by the insurance. The family will be compensated. And everyone will be happy.

That's just my opinion. I give it. But I would not defend it. Everyone is free to think otherwise. It will be hers, in my opinion.

[Julienmos]

You will think what you want, these manipulators who lie for a little notoriety on the networks. For me, to vomit !!!

if indeed it is a manipulator, that he lies, that his goal is notoriety on the networks, I agree that it is to vomit as you say.

but perhaps he sincerely thinks that the Raoult protocol treatment is currently the best we can offer (with the usual precautions) against the risk of worsening this disease?

because staying at home with just doliprane, hoping it goes well, is not particularly reassuring ...

[Did67]

As soon as we use ambiguous sentences - no, "finally a general practitioner can prescribe hydroxychloroquine with the usual precautions" ... [I take your quote, I did not check], I ask myself question...

Being scientific and lying (at least by omission - he can prescribe for the indications provided, not the Covid): incompatible for me.

[Did67]

because staying at home with just doliprane, hoping it goes well, is not particularly reassuring ...

If it's not serious (98% of cases), it will pass ... Some doctors have a priori, taken the risk of prescribing hydroxychloroquine (a priori, according to what some have said themselves on the media - proof that the sanctions ....). I doubt that mine would have done it.

And if it's serious, you will be hospitalized!