Not if I can bypass it ... And they are "Chinese Watts" eh!
I would be surprised if there was a voltage regulator in it and since it works at 24V, chances are that 150 / 200W will be for 24V ... half as much for 12V so ...
So we would have 75W in 12V?
If I supply 8V we fall to 50W ... it's all good!
7.2V nominal it is a 2s lithium battery ...
The advantage of induction systems is that you have regulation included! On the resistive elements it is TOR ... or lower the voltage as I just said ...
Covid19 virus: the disinfectant mask by thermal viral inhibition (+ UVc?)?
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I see that you are wondering about the efficiency, UV-C wavelength 256 nm ... Yet it is currently the only viable means and used for quite some time against germs and viruses ... check the net and you will find there are air purifiers and UV and plasma sterilizers
in a lot of places (clean room, space, operating room and so on) there are even some at the CNRS laboratory) only one small 5 W germicidal UVC tube can be found on Amazon for 20 euros! .
the problem with an efficient thermal system! it's energy consuming!
And putting it in a mask would certainly be interesting but with each inspiration of the individual, it is not certain that the air is not some can be cooled and give a chance to any germ to be ingested anyway, l he idea would be viable if it is tested in an epidemiological environment in the presence of a virus like SARS for example. Or as I described stoker in 2 part the system! part heated and then cooled ...
Anyway, I'll let you test all the ideas are good.
For my part my system is either UVC or cold plasma! it is a system already proven even against SARS COV 2 so it is just enough for UVC my system described above or by plasma and I sent my idea to CNRS with the idea of material! guess what ! an arc lighter rotating at over 70 ° C !!
Yes Yes ! plasma rotating now imagine this honeycomb system on the suction part of the mask with behind a filter against NO3 ozone and a thin film of activated carbon!
Well done for your efforts guys! see you soon
links that you will find in droves: sorry Christophe but your forum does not want anything from me ... impossible to put a link or a picture ... not serious see you soon ;-)
I see that you are wondering about the efficiency, UV-C wavelength 256 nm ... Yet it is currently the only viable means and used for quite some time against germs and viruses ... check the net and you will find there are air purifiers and UV and plasma sterilizers
in a lot of places (clean room, space, operating room and so on) there are even some at the CNRS laboratory) only one small 5 W germicidal UVC tube can be found on Amazon for 20 euros! .
the problem with an efficient thermal system! it's energy consuming!
And putting it in a mask would certainly be interesting but with each inspiration of the individual, it is not certain that the air is not some can be cooled and give a chance to any germ to be ingested anyway, l he idea would be viable if it is tested in an epidemiological environment in the presence of a virus like SARS for example. Or as I described stoker in 2 part the system! part heated and then cooled ...
Anyway, I'll let you test all the ideas are good.
For my part my system is either UVC or cold plasma! it is a system already proven even against SARS COV 2 so it is just enough for UVC my system described above or by plasma and I sent my idea to CNRS with the idea of material! guess what ! an arc lighter rotating at over 70 ° C !!
Yes Yes ! plasma rotating now imagine this honeycomb system on the suction part of the mask with behind a filter against NO3 ozone and a thin film of activated carbon!
Well done for your efforts guys! see you soon
links that you will find in droves: sorry Christophe but your forum does not want anything from me ... impossible to put a link or a picture ... not serious see you soon ;-)
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The problem with UVc or plasma disinfection is the indirect pollutants created!
a) UVc creates ozone in the air ... so if the quantities are tolerable in the open air, not sure that they are in direct inhalation!
b) There is a very good chance that Plasma disinfection will create NOx given the arc temperatures ...
I do not know the quantities however: it will be tolerable or not for our lungs ???
But you have to answer these 2 questions to see if they are possible for air to inhale!
Your CNRS contacts must have the answers!
a) UVc creates ozone in the air ... so if the quantities are tolerable in the open air, not sure that they are in direct inhalation!
b) There is a very good chance that Plasma disinfection will create NOx given the arc temperatures ...
I do not know the quantities however: it will be tolerable or not for our lungs ???
But you have to answer these 2 questions to see if they are possible for air to inhale!
Your CNRS contacts must have the answers!
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the links
https://www.es-france.com/blog/346-rayo ... oronavirus
https://tel.archives-ouvertes.fr/tel-01247888/document
http://fr.v1airpurifier.com/uv-germicid ... 40253.html
https://www.canada.ca/fr/sante-publique ... umain.html
for the plasma lighter
https://www.amazon.com/
see amazon ... keywords plasma ligther ... the link here does not want to be inserted,
sorry
good luck to all ;-)
https://www.es-france.com/blog/346-rayo ... oronavirus
https://tel.archives-ouvertes.fr/tel-01247888/document
http://fr.v1airpurifier.com/uv-germicid ... 40253.html
https://www.canada.ca/fr/sante-publique ... umain.html
for the plasma lighter
https://www.amazon.com/
see amazon ... keywords plasma ligther ... the link here does not want to be inserted,
sorry
good luck to all ;-)
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Re: Covid19 virus: the thermal disinfectant mask (+ UVc?)?
Hi Christopher,
No, of course !! the lungs would undergo an oxidation of the bronchioles (NO3 is as described in the links a powerful oxidant against germs and odors! in short but on the other hand the plasma is used as treatment of certain tumors it is experimental but less harmful than the rays.! c ' is why I described in my last post last night that it takes behind my plasma system an NO3 filter and a thin film of activated carbon it is not extraordinary because in the lab we have sold at 3M, but the idea of a plasma "honeycomb" spinning from a plasma lighter would not be that expensive.
have you looked at the links there are quite a few explanations.
see you soon and good luck for what you do, it's an interesting idea.
No, of course !! the lungs would undergo an oxidation of the bronchioles (NO3 is as described in the links a powerful oxidant against germs and odors! in short but on the other hand the plasma is used as treatment of certain tumors it is experimental but less harmful than the rays.! c ' is why I described in my last post last night that it takes behind my plasma system an NO3 filter and a thin film of activated carbon it is not extraordinary because in the lab we have sold at 3M, but the idea of a plasma "honeycomb" spinning from a plasma lighter would not be that expensive.
have you looked at the links there are quite a few explanations.
see you soon and good luck for what you do, it's an interesting idea.
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Thank you Padawan, I will look in detail at the .pdf
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No need to look very far, we are in the right PADAWAN!
Page 8 we can read:
Please note that the MVM is not a coronavirus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minute_virus_of_mice
It therefore seems more resistant to temperature!
What is interesting is to see that the UV / heat combination is interesting!
Page 8 we can read:
For the first time, the inactivation of viral particles contained in droplets exposed to higher temperatures
at 100 ° C has been studied. It seems that heating can cause a virucidal effect more quickly as previously described.
The UVc resistance (254nm) of MVM, CVB4, H1N1, HSV-1 and SV40 contained in droplets was evaluated. Double-stranded DNA viruses (HSV-1 and SV40) remained infectious after exposure to 60mJ / cm² of UVc, while the vRNA viruses (H1N1 and CVB4) and a single-stranded DNA virus (MVM) were completely inactivated by an exposure less than or equal to 35mJ / cm² of UVc. In addition, the effect of UVc combined with
the heat on the viability of MVM was determined. The infectious titre of MVM, contained in a droplet, was completely inactivated after exposure to 27mJ / cm² of UVc. Heating (20s at 100 ° C) caused a moderate reduction in the viral titer of MVM (-1.8 log10TCID50), while heating, followed by exposure to 17mJ / cm² of UVc, leads to complete inactivation
Please note that the MVM is not a coronavirus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minute_virus_of_mice
It therefore seems more resistant to temperature!
What is interesting is to see that the UV / heat combination is interesting!
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Given the shape, it would be possible to adapt it in a tube through which the air would pass in front of the radiation. $ 15.59
https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/40008749 ... web201603_
Adaptable on it (one of the few seen with a round section of suction tube) by adapting a flexible tube connected to the mask ...
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And here we are, on page 77 we find this H1N1 thermal inhibition curve (also a COVID)
It takes 1 second at 110 ° C to obtain a log decrease of 4 !!
So I'm going to regulate 130 ° C at 2 seconds!
It takes 1 second at 110 ° C to obtain a log decrease of 4 !!
So I'm going to regulate 130 ° C at 2 seconds!
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The H1N1 inhibition curve by UVc is on page 85:
The problem is that the test was done for 20 seconds ... if I understood correctly!
But we can easily do the conversion: 10 mJ for 20 seconds is an equivalent power of 200 mW for 1 second. So a 10 cm² UV treatment surface would only require 10 * 20 = 2 Watts UV!
Please note the UV power is not necessarily the power consumed by the bulb: the efficiency of this one intervenes ... But even if it was only 10%: a 20 Watts bulb is enough, 20 Watts UV c ' is already a big bulb ...
In short, I have more confidence in the thermal solution!
The problem is that the test was done for 20 seconds ... if I understood correctly!
But we can easily do the conversion: 10 mJ for 20 seconds is an equivalent power of 200 mW for 1 second. So a 10 cm² UV treatment surface would only require 10 * 20 = 2 Watts UV!
Please note the UV power is not necessarily the power consumed by the bulb: the efficiency of this one intervenes ... But even if it was only 10%: a 20 Watts bulb is enough, 20 Watts UV c ' is already a big bulb ...
In short, I have more confidence in the thermal solution!
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